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Oct 16, 2015 19:50:30 GMT
Post by JoeP on Oct 16, 2015 19:50:30 GMT
Ostrich eggs are bigger still.
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Oct 17, 2015 9:09:36 GMT
Post by tangent on Oct 17, 2015 9:09:36 GMT
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Oct 17, 2015 18:19:44 GMT
Post by Moose on Oct 17, 2015 18:19:44 GMT
you get a great deal out of them but still not nineteen quid's worth I'd think
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Oct 17, 2015 20:27:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:27:43 GMT
you get a great deal out of them but still not nineteen quid's worth I'd think 19 Quid for one egg?
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Post by JoeP on Oct 17, 2015 20:52:13 GMT
You can use 1 ostrich egg in any recipe that calls for 24 normal chicken eggs.
So it's like paying £5 for half a dozen chicken eggs. I bet Waitrose organic free-range hand-reared extra-happy eggs are that much.
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Oct 17, 2015 23:03:59 GMT
Post by Moose on Oct 17, 2015 23:03:59 GMT
I doubt that they are though I've never set foot in a Waitrose in my life
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Oct 18, 2015 9:11:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 9:11:01 GMT
I doubt that they are though I've never set foot in a Waitrose in my life Neither have I. Have I missed something?
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Oct 18, 2015 9:36:02 GMT
Post by JoeP on Oct 18, 2015 9:36:02 GMT
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Oct 18, 2015 9:53:12 GMT
Post by juju on Oct 18, 2015 9:53:12 GMT
Hmmm...I do wonder if 'middle class' means the same everywhere though? I get the impression that it doesn't have the same connotations in the US as here, but not sure about mainland Europe.
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Oct 18, 2015 10:16:34 GMT
Post by tangent on Oct 18, 2015 10:16:34 GMT
Poynton, near Stockport has a Waitrose... and a lot of very wealthy people. Just 17 minutes away is Prestbury, which used to have more millionaires per square acre than anywhere else in the UK. Also nearby is Wilmslow, a favourite jaunt of the super rich. Apparently, the mere presence of a Waitrose inflates house prices in the area by 12%
ETA: Just looking at Google Maps, there are three Waitrose stores near Prestbury. That figures.
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Oct 18, 2015 10:24:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 10:24:20 GMT
Wow, that sounds almost scary.
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Oct 18, 2015 11:13:02 GMT
Post by JoeP on Oct 18, 2015 11:13:02 GMT
Hmmm...I do wonder if 'middle class' means the same everywhere though? I get the impression that it doesn't have the same connotations in the US as here, but not sure about mainland Europe. I'm sure the understanding of "middle class" is different across the world. Isn't America supposed to be classless? (There's still huge amounts of privilege and exclusion, they just don't feel any need to justify in terms of "breeding" and so on. But I digress.) I was being a bit tongue in cheek ... Waitrose are very keen on saying that their prices aren't higher than Tesco or Asda. But they definitely have more of the fancy stuff. More organic foods in particular: 18% of the UK market as opposed to 5% for the overall groceries market (or something like that; I've closed the article I was reading). Their like-for-like prices probably are comparable, but they surely give more shelf space to things that are pricier. So when I'm saying middle class here I'm really talking about people with more disposable income ... and more time to fret about middle-class things. Like Waitrose being part of the John Lewis Partnership, which is a mutual where every employee is a partner, instead of a normal company.
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Oct 18, 2015 12:15:35 GMT
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Post by juju on Oct 18, 2015 12:15:35 GMT
Well yeah, there's that idea that the middle classes (ie professional, more disposable income etc) are more ethically aware. Actually most people can't afford to be - organic or fair trade goods are too expensive for the majority. Class is a weird thing though. It's not about money, it's not necessarily about education, it's not about where you live...but yet we recognise it - especially in Britain. But anyway, back to eggs. Omelette, please. With cheese. Or mushrooms.
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Oct 18, 2015 12:59:15 GMT
Post by JoeP on Oct 18, 2015 12:59:15 GMT
Cheese and mushrooms? With some chives?
I'll hold the ham although I do like a bit in my omelettes.
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Oct 18, 2015 16:00:15 GMT
Post by Kye on Oct 18, 2015 16:00:15 GMT
I really don't understand the British class system. Here middle class is just the term we use if you're between poor and well off. It's strictly a money thing.
When I went to Vietnam there was a majority of UKers in the group. I know there was some class thing going on there, but for the life of me I couldn't figure it out. And they really didn't know what to do with me and ended up mostly ignoring me. I was pretty happy when another Canadian joined the group!
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Oct 18, 2015 16:00:43 GMT
Post by Kye on Oct 18, 2015 16:00:43 GMT
Oh, and I'll habe my eggs raw in a nice eggnog. With lots of rum.
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Oct 18, 2015 16:07:25 GMT
Post by Moose on Oct 18, 2015 16:07:25 GMT
If the presence of a waitrose inflates house prices, what does the presence of a Lidl do?
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Oct 18, 2015 16:25:10 GMT
Post by juju on Oct 18, 2015 16:25:10 GMT
I really don't understand the British class system. Here middle class is just the term we use if you're between poor and well off. It's strictly a money thing. It's definitely more than a money thing in the UK. It also is to do with stuff like values, education, outlook and things like that, though it can be hard to pin down. Here's a test that might give some clue: www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973 I guess most people do tend to stick with people who share similar backgrounds/outlooks though, that's human nature. We should all be more open and adventurous really.
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Oct 18, 2015 17:35:10 GMT
Post by Kye on Oct 18, 2015 17:35:10 GMT
I seem to be in the emergent service worker class. But I still don't get it.
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Oct 18, 2015 18:20:42 GMT
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Post by juju on Oct 18, 2015 18:20:42 GMT
I seem to be in the emergent service worker class. But I still don't get it. It's nonsense really. As a member of the clergy you'd be firmly middle class here.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:02:42 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Oct 18, 2015 21:02:42 GMT
Well...I'm kinda with Kye on this. I've never understood British class system distinctions.
I'd say that there are 'class' distinctions in the US, but it usually has to do with economic standing. There is a 'middle class' which usually is divided further into 'working class' and 'professional/entrepreneurial class' and that distinction is usually designated with the distinction of 'wage' as versus 'salary', but this is never clear. Property ownership tends to be small and crisis can mean falling out of class into penury, usually distinguished by having inadequate income and no property. Extreme cases of 'lower class' existence is now homelessness. Amongst the upwardly mobile economic classes, many Americans distinguish between 'old money', usually inherited, and 'nuevo riche' which is often gained in some kind of high-risk 'casino' venture. Since it takes money to make money, the disparity between the upper economic class and the lower classes has grown excessively in the recent past....usually to the detriment of those in the middle.
And, yes, I would consider Kye to be a member of the 'middle class'. Indeed, she qualifies as being trained in one of the classical 'professions' (law, clergy, engineer, accountant, physician).
ETA: And they all eat their eggs. I guess.
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Oct 18, 2015 23:00:55 GMT
Post by Moose on Oct 18, 2015 23:00:55 GMT
I consider myself to be middle class and yet I don't have a job. My sister, who is training as a social worker and works in a supermarket currently considers herself working class. The main difference between us I suppose is that I have an education post age sixteen and she until recently did not although I don't see what that is a problem.
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Oct 18, 2015 23:46:44 GMT
Post by tangent on Oct 18, 2015 23:46:44 GMT
Wikipedia has a rather long article on the Social structure of the United Kingdom but I find it more helpful to read these two quotes from other parts of Wikipedia: So, I think we owe the class system more to mainland Europe than to the UK.
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Oct 19, 2015 0:33:37 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Oct 19, 2015 0:33:37 GMT
I consider myself from the lower economic portion of the American middle class, the 'working class'. My father was an exile from the unlanded peasantry (farming rented land), having gotten an exit visa via the Civilian Conservation Corps during the Depression, and a partial education beyond high school (two years at a polytechnical college), with a consequent entree in to the construction trades as a surveyor. Once there, he took correspondence courses to learn 'inspector' skills and spent most of his life as an on-site construction inspector representing an architectual firm, a career which was strongly working class based, but with pretensions of professionalism. He sent both of his sons to complete university educations and we both entered the 'middle class'. I remain a wage-earner and therefore a 'working class', despite holding a clerical (cleric - al) job demanding an advanced education (a clerk with a master's degree). My brother became a civil engineer and entered the professional ranks of the middle to upper middle class. His ten years of invalidism and death pretty much empoverished his family.
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Oct 19, 2015 1:22:52 GMT
Post by Moose on Oct 19, 2015 1:22:52 GMT
your brother spent ten years dead? (sorry I had to)
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Oct 19, 2015 2:53:54 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Oct 19, 2015 2:53:54 GMT
More, now.
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Oct 19, 2015 10:44:52 GMT
Post by JoeP on Oct 19, 2015 10:44:52 GMT
A friend at work has a morning ritual of drinking juice (not orange but some blend of that colour) with four raw egg yolks in it. In the canteen area at work.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:52:57 GMT
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Post by Moose on Oct 19, 2015 16:52:57 GMT
Gosh I can just hear Edwina Currie spinning in her grave. Oh wait, she's not dead is she? Bummer
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Oct 20, 2015 7:49:05 GMT
Post by Alvamiga on Oct 20, 2015 7:49:05 GMT
...in response to Moose's comment about turkey eggs...
Probably eat more or produce less eggs. If the eggs are very similar and one costs more per egg then it becomes "pointless"
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Dec 4, 2015 2:43:36 GMT
Post by Shake on Dec 4, 2015 2:43:36 GMT
How do you prefer them? And scrambled, lightly buttered, lovely and fluffy Buttered? How does that work? Do you just add some in while they're cooking? I've made a sandwich with scrambled eggs where I put them on buttered toast. Yes, scrambled is my choice for eggs. This forum has educated me about what Scotch eggs are and I think I'd like them were I to try them.
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