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Post by whollygoats on Feb 2, 2016 3:59:50 GMT
With Trump at second position and Rubio in third. Evidently, with votes still being counted, Rubio has the potential of knocking Trump in to third postion. The Democratic race is curious. It's being reported out at 50.1% for Clinton and 49.2% for Sanders, leaving less than 1% for O'Malley. This might explain why he has 'suspended his campaign.' I do not know if Iowa is a 'winner take all' state or whether the representatives to the conventions are apportioned in the vote proportions.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 2, 2016 6:11:33 GMT
Okay....The two Democratic candidates will split the delegates to the convention 50-50.
I don't quite think that is what Hillary had in mind.
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Post by tangent on Feb 2, 2016 19:23:15 GMT
Sanders closed the gap between himself and Hillary by 3%. Not much, but he is steadily gaining ground. New Hampshire should be interesting, the polls put him 18% ahead of Hillary.
However, I read that even if the Democrats win the Presidency, the Republicans are highly likely to keep control of the House. In which case, Bernie would have a very hard time. His main achievements might be limited to stopping the Republicans from dismantling Obamacare.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 2, 2016 19:50:06 GMT
Sanders closed the gap between himself and Hillary by 3%. Not much, but he is steadily gaining ground. New Hampshire should be interesting, the polls put him 18% ahead of Hillary. However, I read that even if the Democrats win the Presidency, the Republicans are highly likely to keep control of the House. In which case, Bernie would have a very hard time. His main achievements might be limited to stopping the Republicans from dismantling Obamacare. Please note that if Hillary gets elected, she will have the same problem.
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Post by tangent on Feb 2, 2016 22:09:57 GMT
Yes, of course.
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Post by juju on Feb 2, 2016 23:14:03 GMT
So Cruz is as bad as Trump, just less noisy. Are there any reasonable GOP candidates left? Least worst options?
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 3, 2016 1:33:46 GMT
So Cruz is as bad as Trump, just less noisy. Are there any reasonable GOP candidates left? Least worst options? Left? From my view, there never were any 'reasonable GOP candidates'. I'd say that Rubio and Kasich are the least worst, but still nothing I'd vote for.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 4, 2016 22:15:23 GMT
True to form, Trump is now threatening to sue. I'm not sure who he'll sue, but this is what he does.
"We have a cheap lawyer and we're not afraid to use him!"
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Post by Moose on Feb 4, 2016 22:35:12 GMT
Without wanting to make a case either for or against Donald Trump, something is being forgotten. This man is a major employer of people, both in the US and, to a much lesser extent, here in the UK. What I saw of his buildings in Chicago I liked and even admired. In a world where ordinary people need employment that is no bad thing. He puts food on the table and money in pockets. He's successful at it. Whatever Donald Trump may or may not be he is not an imbecile. Apparently he would have had more money if he'd just invested his inheritance and lived on the interest. Not an imbecile? Then he's a bigot and he's dangerous.
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Post by kingedmund on Feb 27, 2016 5:37:56 GMT
Not a clue anymore on anything. Feel like I've been in a fog but at least I'm on track. True. But to even mess with police takes a lot of .... Fancy word play just to sound nice.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 27, 2016 17:27:36 GMT
So Cruz is as bad as Trump, just less noisy. Are there any reasonable GOP candidates left? Least worst options? Basically, Cruz is a Dominionist. That is really scary. Trump is a butthead, but at least holds a few decent opinions. I cannot say the same of Cruz. Here, try this on.
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Post by Kye on Feb 27, 2016 18:16:08 GMT
Good Lord...
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 27, 2016 18:31:52 GMT
Good Lord... Well, from my perspective, it looks more like "Bad Lord". But maybe that's just me. I'll bet Papa Cruz is an active member of the Temple Institute.
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Post by Moose on Feb 27, 2016 19:56:01 GMT
The thing is though that if Trump does not get the nomination he might stand as an independent, which would split the GOP vote. That is the best outcome that I can foresee. If he gets the nomination then there's the truly terrifying possibility that he might win the election.
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Post by jayme on Feb 28, 2016 1:00:41 GMT
The problem is that there are too many loonies splitting up the vote in the primaries. I think, at this point, Trump is going to win the nomination, unless all but one of the others drops out soon. The Republicans that don't want Trump need to get behind one opposing candidate. My fear is that the one that sticks with it 'til the end will be Cruz, though, so it's looking pretty grim no matter what happens in the primaries.
I wonder, though, if Republicans who do not want Trump are scared enough of his personality to vote Democrat in the general election, but would not do so if Cruz is the nominee? Maybe we do want Trump to win in the primaries.
I don't know. Maybe it's time to buy a ticket to Mars...
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Post by Alvamiga on Feb 28, 2016 17:34:19 GMT
I just happened to come across this...
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Post by Moose on Feb 28, 2016 19:13:11 GMT
I would have thought that most fundies would not like Trump much? And he pissed off an awful lot of Catholics.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 28, 2016 21:45:40 GMT
Fundies tend to flock to Cruz, who is a super fundy. Trump tends to attract more of the rascist/ubernationalist/nativist hater types....y'know, all dem 'muricans who can clearly see Schroedinger's Immigrant. It is sort of dividing the native American ignoramus troglodytes into camps.
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Post by Moose on Feb 28, 2016 22:07:24 GMT
TBH I don't fancy the idea of a super fundy anymore than I fancy Trump, the more I think about it
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 29, 2016 0:05:16 GMT
Nor do I. Which seems to be the point this election cycle with Republicans.
With all that evil, how are we supposed to pick the lesser?
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Post by Moose on Feb 29, 2016 0:44:38 GMT
Ennie Menie
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Post by Kye on Feb 29, 2016 1:30:44 GMT
Sigh. Bread and circuses...
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Post by tangent on Feb 29, 2016 9:07:55 GMT
It looks as though Hillary's got it sewn up.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 29, 2016 14:35:42 GMT
We'll have a shipload of new information after tomorrow, which is the first Super Tuesday primary day, with 11 states voting.
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Post by tangent on Feb 29, 2016 15:28:24 GMT
Clinton's lead is in the 20s and 30s in most of the Super Tuesday states. Sanders will win in Vermont, naturally, and maybe in Massachusetts and Oklahoma but not in the other eight states. But he isn't too far behind nationally, so he still has a chance.
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Post by juju on Feb 29, 2016 20:14:55 GMT
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Post by tangent on Feb 29, 2016 20:35:26 GMT
I just love this election
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 29, 2016 20:47:35 GMT
Oh, this doesn't really surprise me. Remember, Trump is a showman. He's right, he's not a politician and that it probably what most people who support him like. Remember that come the general election.
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Post by Moose on Feb 29, 2016 21:16:58 GMT
I don't love this election .. I hate it This could and will have a big impact on the world.
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Post by tangent on Feb 29, 2016 22:23:50 GMT
I love this election because of the theatre and because I don't think he will be elected.
I personally think Cruz and Rubio would have a bigger impact on the world than Trump. But looking at the opinion polls, it would appear Trump has a lower chance of being elected, if he gains the nomination, than Cruz or Rubio.
Paddipower's betting odds on the Democrats winning have gone from 4/5 last month to 1/2 today (a bet of £10 won £8 last month but only £5 now).
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