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Post by robert on Jul 31, 2018 0:07:19 GMT
Why do you think rap/ hip hop is so popular with the kids these days but metal is not? I work with the youth and it is a trend I have noticed.
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Post by JoeP on Jul 31, 2018 9:36:28 GMT
Because metal is just more mature? Possibly because metal tends to be more musically complex. In fact, tends to be more about music than about singing (especially for death growl bands where you can't tell what they're singing ... or German / Swedish / Finnish lyrics where you can't understand it!). Possibly just because some parents like metal so it can't be cool: the same thing that results in young people deserting Facebook for things like Instagram.
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Post by robert on Jul 31, 2018 11:48:45 GMT
The parents liking metal so it can't be cool, there may actually be something there. But I know many men in their 50's that listen to rap and hip hop too.
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Post by Kye on Jul 31, 2018 13:51:25 GMT
I love hip hop --but only to dance to.
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Post by tangent on Jul 31, 2018 20:25:21 GMT
I don't understand anything in this thread.
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Post by Moose on Jul 31, 2018 20:51:39 GMT
Metal has always been a sub-genre. I have always loved it but I was aware that a liking for it was not all that common.
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Post by JoeP on Jul 31, 2018 21:22:03 GMT
A sub-genre you say? Metal aka heavy metal is a genre. Symphonic metal (eg Nightwish) is a sub-genre. Melodic death metal (eg Amon Amarth) would be a sub-sub-genre. Folk metal (eg Korpiklaani) is a sub-genre, or a "fusion genre" (folk and metal). There is even a fusion genre of rap and metal ... rap metal. Eg, apparently, Limp Bizkit.
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Post by Moose on Jul 31, 2018 21:45:59 GMT
Oh sub culture then. Whatever
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Post by JoeP on Jul 31, 2018 22:05:21 GMT
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Post by robert on Aug 1, 2018 1:17:26 GMT
I don't understand anything in this thread. Cogito ergo sum metal!
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Post by robert on Aug 1, 2018 1:17:41 GMT
Moose loves Slayer!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 1:22:59 GMT
Why do you think rap/ hip hop is so popular with the kids these days but metal is not? I work with the youth and it is a trend I have noticed. what's their demographic? That can have a strong influence on the kind of music they like.
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Post by robert on Aug 1, 2018 1:38:54 GMT
Why do you think rap/ hip hop is so popular with the kids these days but metal is not? I work with the youth and it is a trend I have noticed. what's their demographic? That can have a strong influence on the kind of music they like. I work in the inner city.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 3:04:52 GMT
what's their demographic? That can have a strong influence on the kind of music they like. I work in the inner city. I'd suggest that rap/ hip hop music genre is not significantly more popular than before. More likely is that the inner-city kids you're coming into contact with are attracted to it as it better reflects their own cultures and lifestyles. They can relate to the beat and lyrics more so than metal. The two audiences are distinctly different; that's not to say you can't like both, although I'm not really a fan of metal myself. I do like a good rap tune
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Post by Moose on Aug 2, 2018 19:27:34 GMT
I like metal but dislike rap
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Post by robert on Aug 3, 2018 2:04:54 GMT
Me too Moose.
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Post by tangent on Aug 3, 2018 13:27:17 GMT
I like Mozart.
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Post by robert on Aug 4, 2018 1:50:15 GMT
Mozart was innovative in his markedly different style from Baroque which stood for the beginning of the Classical Period. However, I did not care for his music. I think Beethoven's compositions were far better. Though if you want to really be blown away, listen to Gabriel Faure.
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Post by tangent on Aug 4, 2018 6:42:06 GMT
I'm struggling to find anything by Fauré that I like or even find familiar. His Pavane is the only piece I know. Many of Fauré's works are too unharmonic for my liking, I was never very fond of 20th century unharmonic compositions, hating them more often than not.
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Post by JoeP on Aug 4, 2018 10:02:09 GMT
Fauré's Requiem has some awesome passages.
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Post by Kye on Aug 4, 2018 11:23:48 GMT
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Post by robert on Aug 5, 2018 12:18:39 GMT
I'm struggling to find anything by Fauré that I like or even find familiar. His Pavane is the only piece I know. Many of Fauré's works are too unharmonic for my liking, I was never very fond of 20th century unharmonic compositions, hating them more often than not. This is probably my favorite piece by Faure. I suppose he is an acquired taste. Many music critics find three distinct eras of Faure's music, the first a more traditional romantic, second a transitional period from romantic to modern, and third a more modern era. This work above is more the third, but still retains some elements of the romantic. It isn't that it is disharmonic, but it rapidly changes keys fluidly, like water. The ideal 20th century style is simply atonal completely. I am thinking of composer such as Arnold Schoenberg, Alban Berg, and especially Anton Webern. I actually enjoy these composers as that I feel they represent a beauty in the abstract. I think their works, not being minimalistic and simplistic, are not comparable to the art world's 'Andy Warhol's Soup Can' nonsense or those o so recognizable globs of paint on canvass nonsense either. I think these composers actually did create something of value. However, it isn't for all ears.
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Post by robert on Aug 5, 2018 12:19:05 GMT
Fauré's Requiem has some awesome passages. Agreed.
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Post by robert on Aug 5, 2018 12:22:31 GMT
Quite powerful I agree. One can definitely discern the 'Frenchness' of his works. Almost like layers of counterpoint lazily swaying into other keys like impressionistic brush strokes. Amazing!
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