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Post by whollygoats on Sept 29, 2018 7:22:08 GMT
So, as you all know, I like to rave on about my visceral dislike for our current president here in the US. I know, I know....it's hard for me, too. But I have to tell you that, at this point, at least, the Cheeto Benito is not my most reviled and reprehensible person on the US political scene. No, that honor goes to: Mitch McConnell, US Senator from Kentucky and majority (R) leader in the US Senate. Senator McConnell is, in my humble opinion, lower than toxic pond scum...he is the excrement of toxic pond scum. The KY Senator giving Santorum a run for his money. I wish to make sure that Senator McConnell will be duly remembered as such a vile and reprehensible excuse for corrupted protoplasm. A zit on the arse of history. So...Do you have a fave American political type you like to h8 on? And...who does Murdoch belong to these days? Is he currently 'American'?
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 30, 2018 6:17:15 GMT
Don't even know him. Just another political figure. Hell. I can't even remember actors names. Looks like a relative of Chevy Chase now that I look closer at the picture.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 13:14:14 GMT
I'm not surprised.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 13:36:08 GMT
Perhaps you've heard of this fuckwit: That's our present vice-president, Mike Pence. He's another charming member of the present leadership team of our nation. He thinks he has your best interests at heart and wants to see you tortured. And then, there is this guy, he comes from the same mold and was something of a mentor to the asshat above: Do you know him? Because he is another paragon of Republican virtues who wants to entirely disenfranchise gay citizens. He ran for president, too. Fortunately, he has been sidelined for the moment. My point is that if you refuse to pay attention, they may well come hunting for you and yours to send to the concentration camps. You can continue to flaunt your glaring ignorance and dismiss what is happening, but I'm just assuming that you'll go peacefully to the slaughterhouse when they come for you. I think that is sad.
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 30, 2018 15:15:22 GMT
I know who pence is. Not fond of him but the second pic. No clue.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 15:25:56 GMT
I know who pence is. Not fond of him but the second pic. No clue. That is Rick Santorum. A favorite of America's gay community. He believes that homosexuals can be 'cured' of their 'unnatural lusts' with the application of electro-convulsive therapy. That gays can be tortured back to 'normality'. The GOP did not send us their winners, instead we got the rapists, Nazis, misogynists, rascists, xenophobes, pedophiles, and just general all-around haters of anybody who doesn't look or sound like they do. Some of them might be decent, but given the company they keep and the spokesmen they pick, you would not know it by me. This is one reason why I find your support for Trump so appalling. Both of these men are stalwarts of the GOP and in the forefront of the shock troops opposing gay marriage, gays in the military, and gays having full civil rights. You voted for their agenda.
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 30, 2018 15:35:54 GMT
I know who pence is. Not fond of him but the second pic. No clue I do occasionally pay attention but it's to much drama from everyone for me to care.
Going to give you some advice: This is the reason this is a turnoff for people. Insulting, calling me names, wishing me ill will, ramming your opinion down my throat is totally unappealing. People do not respond to that. We all have the right to do what we want and have our own opinion. I'm not telling you forcefully what you should believe but disrespecting another's idea is never cool. How is this different from trump? I looks like both sides are problematic to me.
Listen. I like you a lot. I reallly do. Have for years but don't you think telling me I'm going to a slaughterhouse, that I'm stupid (I have a law degree, economics degree finished, and working on accounting and several others hardly makes me stupid), an abomination, a joke, that my excitement for genealogy is nothing, your ancestors are murders. Etc. I'm sure there were some that were. Thank you goat for hurting me.
Don't get me wrong, I do like to know your opinion. I really do.
I'm going to go on from this today and put it out of my mind and forgive. Can we remain friends and leave it at that? I really do hope you have a wonderful day.
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 30, 2018 15:38:27 GMT
Ricks opionion is just his. The system has checks and balances. Not going to loose sleep over it. But right now at this point I've lost interest but thank you for the information.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 15:47:47 GMT
Going to give you some advice: This is the reason this is a turnoff for people. Insulting, calling me names, wishing me ill will, ramming your opinion down my throat is totally unappealing. People do not respond to that. And, I'll give you some advice: People DO respond to that. YOU responded to that. YOU voted for the candidate that utilized that very campaign technique and now, as president, uses it regularly to dismiss and demean his political opponents. I am doing it here because, with you as a Trump voter, I'm clear that it is exactly the approach to which YOU respond.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 16:04:51 GMT
Actually, I've not thought you stupid, but ignorant. And, I think you actively ignore. You find it distasteful, somehow, and do NOT give it the attention it deserves. If what you claim is true, it saddens me even a bit further, because I perceive it as a good education entirely wasted. I also would point out yet another Dump administration moron to illustrate my point: Dr. Ben Carson. An excellent demonstration that politics is not brain surgery. Smart man. Ignorant politician. Consequence: Ridiculous tool of the unscrupulous. Fine motor skills do not readily translate to enlightened political leader. He should have remained a neurosurgeon.
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Post by tangent on Sept 30, 2018 16:20:44 GMT
I've never thought Trump ignorant nor his followers stupid. He knows exactly what he wants and he gets it. His followers admire him for giving them what they want. Who are we to call them stupid? They're actually quite smart.
This morning, I read an article in The Sun that suggested the electorate was sick and tired of the government... and that's why they hated Hillary and loved Trump. He's different from the mold. I hate his morality, I hate his deception, I hate his misogyny and I hate his attitude to gays, Muslims and women. But I have to give him his due, he's electrified half of the population much for the better. Pity about world trade and climate trade.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 16:25:10 GMT
Ricks opionion is just his. The system has checks and balances. Not going to loose sleep over it. But right now at this point I've lost interest but thank you for the information. The checks and balances work if everybody respects the rules upon which they are predicated. The person YOU voted for as part of those 'checks and balances' does not respect the US Constitution and he and his associates have flouted the US Constitution since before they took office. That is one reason why there is an ongoing investigation in to the campaign which put the present occupant there and, out of that investigation, so far, there have been 18 convictions on multiple counts of violations against federal law. I don't think the state investigations have even geared up, yet. The ongoing Meuller investigations promises to generate even more indictments and probably more convictions. Yet, as the checks and balances teeter, the president YOU voted for threatens to break the entire thing; to drag down the scales of justice in a puerile hissy fit. Classy. And you upbraid me for my attitude? Look to the candidate you elected to office before you criticize my approach.
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Post by tourmaline on Sept 30, 2018 16:33:59 GMT
Going back to the original question. I'm on the email list for several organizations, and the current one that I cannot understand anyone supporting is Brett Kavanaugh.
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 30, 2018 16:42:10 GMT
Thank you tangent. That's what I need to convey.
On Brett. I can see both sides. Both are valid. How old were they both?
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 16:55:17 GMT
Going back to the original question. I'm on the email list for several organizations, and the current one that I cannot understand anyone supporting is Brett Kavanaugh. Well, yes...He is the chosen of the above cadre. The major source of my ire with Senator McConnell is that he prevented the Merrick Garland appointment from going forward. For eight months on the purely fabricated lie that the American public needed to have the chance to express its will at the polls. Eight months. Now, he can't even wait for an FBI investigation in to purported improprieties of the nominee. He tried to overwhelm the committee opposition with too much information, too late. There has been an ongoing effort to screen this nomination process from public view at the committee level. It's a 'Bum's Rush'. McConnell is the key man. This is the committee chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee: This is a fossil fuckwit. Senator Chuck Grassley, Iowa. He has a fellow fossil fuckwit on the committee, too: A fellow fossil fuckwit who I suspect is on LDS. Other than that, both these guys have been in the Senate forever. They are both loyal pawns, now in positions of horrific influence.
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 30, 2018 16:59:09 GMT
I think all congress/senate should be replaced. All.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2018 17:07:08 GMT
I've never thought Trump ignorant nor his followers stupid. He knows exactly what he wants and he gets it. His followers admire him for giving them what they want. Who are we to call them stupid? They're actually quite smart. Except that his followers are not getting what they want. At least the unrich ones aren't. Carrier moved its jobs overseas. The real jobs are still disappearing, largely to automation. Saving coal is a dirty joke. But, there is a chronically underbuilt social safety net and the very people now in control of the access to social funds seem intent upon looting and pillaging, rather than serving the interests of their constituents. And, excuse me, but anybody who hires Michael Cohen as an attorney doesn't have too much on the ball. And, when that same guy runs multiple businesses, including casinoes, FFS, in to the ground and even managed to log nearly a billion dollars in business losses....that does not sound like 'intelligence' to me. Money-grubbing? Yes. Parasitical profiteering? Yes. But I think 'intelligence' is hyperbole and a half. And, when that same clown has attorneys fleeing from his retainers such that he has to hire Guiliani as his personal attorney? Give me a break on the 'intelligent'.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 17, 2020 17:53:21 GMT
Thank you tangent. That's what I need to convey. On Brett. I can see both sides. Both are valid. How old were they both? ROTFLMAO tangent is in error, as well. And he knows it. Rex Tillerson, the bad precedent's secretary of state, most accurately stated it when he said of the president: "He is a fucking moron." And I'll take the opinion of the former CEO of Exxon who served as a functionary to the asshole in the White House, and saw him and worked with him on a regular basis for nearly three years, over that of some clueless foreign poster on this board. That's even when, as a general rule, I detest Rex's opinion. He's a fracking asshole. LOL...And that is just a start. It seems the plurality of his forthcoming confidantes think of him an "an idiot", which is an even worse judgement of his intellectual capabilities. And, this does not even include his professor at Wharton, who was cited in a Philadelphia Inquirer article, stating, "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had!" But then, Dr. William T. Kelley only taught marketing at Wharton for 31 years.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 17, 2020 18:48:28 GMT
I think all congress/senate should be replaced. All. Interesting, and quite ignorant, opinion. All? Really? You know that if you remove ALL elected representatives in Congress, you will put in place a Congress staffed by total morons unfamiliar with the processes and responsibilities of the office, while those private and unelected 'specialists' in the Lobby who advise these elected officials will have more information, more power, and more influence over elected officials. Such a measure would be a hideous debacle. Only a fucknuts idiot would suggest such a thing. What we need is to selectively remove those elected officials who have become functional factotums for special interests. Remove the ones who are bought. Excise the corruption. Start with all the Republicans. So, I disagree with your inane suggestion. That would just turn Congress over to the special interests. But, then....You didn't think about that. Because you don't think.
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Post by Moose on Feb 18, 2020 4:45:14 GMT
No - Trump is ignorant. He's not only ignorant but he is stupid, which is not the same thing. Most of his followers are too, but there are those who simply know that they are better off under a Trump administration *shrugs*. But this man is NOT intelligent. He has apparently been well educated but his education does not show through in his speech.
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Post by whollygoats on Feb 18, 2020 17:32:13 GMT
No - Trump is ignorant. He's not only ignorant but he is stupid, which is not the same thing. Most of his followers are too, but there are those who simply know that they are better off under a Trump administration *shrugs*. But this man is NOT intelligent. He has apparently been well educated but his education does not show through in his speech. My bold. Those are the craven opportunists. They take advantage of loopholes and oversights written in to hideously corrupted legislation or corrupt acquisition contacts to advance their pecuniary position at the cost of other taxpayers and any kind of legitimate transparency. In other words, they are complicit and unindicted co-conspirators. Parasites, in other words. Predators.
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Post by Moose on Feb 18, 2020 23:34:13 GMT
Well quite. And people who seem not to care about the suffering of others.
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Post by whollygoats on Jul 27, 2020 17:45:26 GMT
I think it ironic to the extreme that Republicans should wax manic about all the 'looters' in the streets of America. They are the biggest and most craven looters of all.
I want to press home the point I have been trying to make about our bad precedent and his cronies. They are functional fascists. Look at what they are doing in the US today.
Here, here's what the Lincoln Project, the conservative Republicans with a shred of dignity and decency have to say about McConnell and his as yet unindicted co-conspirators:
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