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Post by Moose on Feb 22, 2019 6:56:10 GMT
I am surprised to hear that Bernie has chucked his hand in again but .. not terribly pleased. I do not think that he's a bad person - quite the contrary - but he's not going to win. Even if he wins the nomination I do not think he's going to beat Trump. I'd love to think he would but I simply don't. I do not know who the best Dem nominee would be but - it is not Sanders
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2019 17:43:48 GMT
Interesting. Although I disagree. Current polls show Trump losing to all major Democratic candidates, down to and including Mayor Pete Buttegieg, a complete nobody in the race for president. I don't give much credence to polls. Sanders is doing quite well and has the jump on most candidates in the field. My disappointment is not Sanders, but Biden. What a hack. I was surprised that Sanders threw his hat in the ring, myself. I supported him the last round and donated to his campaign. I think he has got it; he knows the direction we, as a nation, should be headed. He has for more than thirty years now and has not wavered in that vision. But, I thought he was done. Besides, I like Liz. Yes, I have chosen a favorite and did so quite early. Elizabeth Warren has garnered my first donation in this cycle of campaign finance. I wanted to support her the last election, but she refused to run. Now, with her campaigning, I'm more than glad to see my girl...."She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted." That woman, on the campaign trail. And, even this early in the campaign, she's already garnered the spot as the prepared and policy-oriented candidate ("She's got a plan for that!") with a genuine concern for the American public. She is campaigning to rescue the American middle class. At this point, I am supporting Liz. That said, I'd support Sanders again in a heartbeat. And, I disagree. I think if Bernie had run as Trump's opponent, there would be no mango shitgibbon in the Oval Office. Bernie would have won.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2019 17:56:14 GMT
I might also note that Bernie entered the lion's den, tugged the lion's chin-whiskers, and walked away from it with more votes.
He did an interview on Fux Nudes and garnered a standing ovation from the on-site crowd.
Now, he is mashing the 'socialism' tagging in the shitgibbon's face. Bernie knows how to work a crowd, and does well at it, despite his public persona.
"I didn't hear Jamie Dimon whining about 'socialism' when the US government bailed out the banks in 2009."
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2019 17:59:57 GMT
In more upbeat news, Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks, has suspended his 'independent centrist' campaign for president of the United States.
Schultz cited health issues and did not allude to whether he would re-enter in the eventuality that Joe Biden got his ass whooped in the primaries.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2019 18:06:53 GMT
We've got a dual round of 'debates' coming up. A chance for everybody to acquaint themselves with the field of candidates. Those who could qualify, that is....
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Post by Moose on Jun 16, 2019 2:19:56 GMT
Oh I think Bernie would have won if he'd been nominated LAST time. But I am not convinced that he could this time.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 16, 2019 4:50:09 GMT
I think he is still capable of winning. For what it is worth, the latest polls have him winning by large margins against the mango shitgibbon.
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Post by ceptimus on Jun 16, 2019 16:22:29 GMT
Biden an Sanders are both too old, in my opinion. They should step aside and make way for younger candidates.
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Post by JoeP on Jun 16, 2019 19:41:50 GMT
For what it is worth, the latest polls have him winning by large margins against the mango shitgibbon. Have we not learned that polls can't be trusted?
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 17, 2019 0:32:50 GMT
For what it is worth, the latest polls have him winning by large margins against the mango shitgibbon. Have we not learned that polls can't be trusted? I certainly hope so. And that goes in spades for this point in the two year long browbeating. The best one can hope is to use a number of 'reputable' polls as a rough guide for relative positions. Nothing more. Certainly nothing definitive.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 17, 2019 0:40:16 GMT
Biden an Sanders are both too old, in my opinion. They should step aside and make way for younger candidates. I disagree. I think that Sanders is one of the freshest and youngest minds in the ring. Not only that, he has been consistent over the entire arc of his political career about his policies and that they are far and away more progressive and forward-thinking that almost all other candidates in the ring (save Liz). Not only that, he's in pretty good physical shape for a man pushing eighty. I understand he plays a little basketball. And, note that Liz is only eight years younger than Bernie. That said, Biden's head seems to be locked in to twenty years ago. He has a miserable record and was appended to the Obama ticket as 'balance'...y'know, to balance off all that liberal minority intelligensia aura that Barack put off. So, they matched him with a RC, right-to-life, conservative, Democrat warhawk who was in the pocket of the credit industry. Mind you, this is one of the asshats that helped build the prison-for-profit industry in the US. VP was a great position for him; breaking ties in the Senate was an excellent job for him...nothing more. What IS the 'right' age? Remember Never To Forget Rule One. Rather than some arbitrary age limitation, I think all candidates should be vetted for their knowledge of the processes of which they seek to take the helm. There should be an IQ, mental exam, and civics examination, as well as open public provision of ones tax and financial records, prior to being allowed to run. A turpitude filter would be a welcome addition, too.
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Post by kingedmund on Jun 18, 2019 0:50:00 GMT
For what it is worth, the latest polls have him winning by large margins against the mango shitgibbon. Have we not learned that polls can't be trusted? ๐
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 18, 2019 23:10:36 GMT
Have we not learned that polls can't be trusted? ๐ Particularly when the kleptonomic plutocrats collude with crooked sleazebag Republican puppets that they've purchased thanks to the shitheaded judgement of a badly misguided Supreme Court. I hope that Trump ends his career like Mussolini, but I'd settle for his suffering Vidkun Quisling's fate. I am unclear as to how this selection of a PM will color the outcome of Brexit. What options are actually available at this point? There is a 'No Deal'...and, what, some kind of 'Deal'? And, what every Irish American is waiting to hear....Will they build a wall between Ulster and Eire? ROFLMAO
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Post by kingedmund on Jun 19, 2019 12:18:11 GMT
Biden an Sanders are both too old, in my opinion. They should step aside and make way for younger candidates. Very true. Right now none of them interest us. Biden probably canโt remember what he did the day before. ๐
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 19, 2019 14:53:19 GMT
Yeah? Well, if that is the test, then the current occupant should never have been allowed to take office. He is a major mental mess. Sometimes, he can't even remember his own current wife's name.
Nor even how to close up an ordinary umbrella. To quote his own Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, he is a 'fucking moron'. He seems challenged to prove that each and every day.
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