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Post by spaceflower on May 24, 2019 15:30:28 GMT
Sounds like a suicide assignment.
A devided Tory party, no loyalty from party colleagues, no cooperation from Labour or DUP, soon three years after Brexit referendum and still no deal.
I hope it will not be Boris Johnson.
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Post by tangent on May 24, 2019 15:48:38 GMT
It's an impossible job. I'm hoping Boris takes it and that it will end his career. If it doesn't and he delivers a Brexit 'No Deal', it will be the end of the Tory party. I don't wish Boris Johnson on the country but it would have a silver lining.
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Post by Moose on May 24, 2019 21:31:56 GMT
They're as bad as each other really. That said .. Rees Mogg *shudders*
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Post by JoeP on May 24, 2019 22:36:53 GMT
I also hope it won't be him ... but really, are any of the alternatives significantly better?
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Post by tangent on May 25, 2019 11:06:56 GMT
I would support Dominic Grieve if he were standing - yesterday he said he would do everything possible to avoid No Deal - but he's not.
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Post by spaceflower on May 29, 2019 18:21:25 GMT
I suppose that this person would have to "out-farage" Nigel Farage, otherwise the Brexit party would win next election.
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Post by tangent on May 29, 2019 20:16:18 GMT
There's a small window of opportunity for Farage. Before 31st October, the general public will only see the progress on Brexit (or not) and his party will be irrelevant. After March next year, or thereabouts, the political scene will have settled down and the electorate will make rational choices. The danger period is the five months from November to March.
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Post by Moose on Jun 3, 2019 2:02:30 GMT
There is a bloke I've been seeing on Current Affairs programmes recently.. I can't remember his name but someone I'd never heard of. For a Tory, he seems quite agreeable - though I do not know a huge amount about him. Will find out more.
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Post by JoeP on Jun 3, 2019 7:47:26 GMT
I know who you mean. No wait of course I don't that's far too vague
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Post by Alvamiga on Jun 10, 2019 14:07:25 GMT
The biggest problem at present is that it's not even about who is going to be the best leader for the country, etc. It's all about who's going to make the least bad mess of Brexit!
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Post by tangent on Jun 10, 2019 21:47:10 GMT
One contender, Sam Gyimah, backed another referendum but he has withdrawn from the race because he couldn't attain the necessary support to qualify. I'm not surprised. How many Conservatives want another referendum?
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Post by JoeP on Jun 10, 2019 22:05:24 GMT
The biggest problem at present is that it's not even about who is going to be the best leader for the country, etc. It's all about who's going to make the least bad mess of Brexit!What makes you think that? Given that the people who have the final vote about about 150,000 Conservative party members who are predominantly white male south-eastern English people, it's more likely to be about who's going to make the most extreme mess of Brexit. The only balancing consideration they'll have is "not likely to precipitate and lose a general election".
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Post by tangent on Jun 10, 2019 22:18:55 GMT
The least bad mess is agreeing to Theresa May's deal. But, as Joe points out, the predominately white male Conservative party members are more likely to throw that away and vote for a No Deal Brexit. That will mean the end of the Conservative party, which would make me very pleased, and economic catastrophe for the country unless Boris negotiates a transition period. Everything that's likely to happen fills me with despair.
ETA Europe has said it will not allow a transition period.
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Post by Moose on Jun 10, 2019 23:56:54 GMT
You have to wonder how people don't see it.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2019 17:21:29 GMT
If your trade negotiators are preparing to sell out to American offers, you are lost.
That would be like unleashing bloodthirsty predator parasites upon the unprotected populace.
*facepalm*
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