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Post by Moose on May 15, 2014 20:40:51 GMT
What do people think of this? I am not entirely sure personally. On the one hand yes , it is something that needs to be commemorated and remembered but I am a little unsure about some of the exhibits .. not to mention that there will be human remains there (NOT exhibited, obviously, but I think as some sort of tomb or memorial). Would you visit it?
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Post by tangent on May 16, 2014 16:03:24 GMT
I'm not happy about it. It is celebrating the dramatic, the big and the Daily Mail news headlines. People die every day for noble causes and they aren't celebrated. People are killed every day but they are forgotten. There are no memorials to the everyday rape victims. This is not a memorial to people it is a memorial to a cause.
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Post by Moose on May 16, 2014 20:57:02 GMT
No - it is a memorial to a significant event. Do you disagree also with the Holocaust museum(s)? Not that I am saying that it is the same thing as it is not. But saying ' oh people die every day and we don't have museums' misses the point I think
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Post by tangent on May 16, 2014 22:28:42 GMT
I don't know any holocaust museums so I can't really say but I went round the Anna Frank museum and felt it was moving. But that was about a person and not an event. I'm all for remembering people but not these events. I don't feel the 9/11 museum can ever focus on people.
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Post by Moose on May 17, 2014 2:11:39 GMT
Um hum. So, had Anne Frank not died in Belsen, had she lived to be eighty and all of those who had lived in that annexe survived, would you still have been interested?
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Post by tangent on May 17, 2014 16:40:57 GMT
I don't understand your point.
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Post by Moose on May 17, 2014 16:47:59 GMT
Reading it back, I don't think I do either.
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Post by Alvamiga on May 17, 2014 21:21:02 GMT
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Post by tangent on May 17, 2014 23:04:25 GMT
It was a silly comment but I'm surprised people made a fuss about it. Is there any reason, had Anne Frank not been born into such a terrible regime and had not suffered the oppression and death, that she would not want to be one of his fans? However, his comment was silly because Anne Frank was such a hugely important and tragic figure and his comment was so flippant. Not something I would lose sleep over though.
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Post by Moose on May 18, 2014 1:58:32 GMT
Of all the many comments that he has made that I disagreed with this actually was not one. I think the media just mis-interpreted it
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Post by Alvamiga on May 18, 2014 12:57:26 GMT
I think it was just mostly the inappropriateness of it. Not an acceptable place to self-promote!
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Post by tangent on May 18, 2014 16:53:42 GMT
Agreed.
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Post by Moose on May 18, 2014 17:07:53 GMT
Well he's a silly little prat. But I think he's said and done worse things unfortunately.
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Post by Alvamiga on May 18, 2014 21:04:36 GMT
Yes. On that police interview that was made public recently where he was playing the "I do not recall" game, he came over as a really dislikeable idiot!
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Post by DGoeij on May 28, 2014 10:01:51 GMT
Hundreds of people died on that very spot, I'd think some form of significant memorial was more than called for.
I haven't seen the place, but I do hope it is about the people who died and remembering them. The Frank family gives a face to a larger event, but on exciting the hide-out, you walk past the lists of names of the Dutch Jews that were transported East. Thousands of them.
Events like these need to be remembered. The fact that we fail to mark the slower drip feed of lower numbers of people that die in other tragic events, does not counter that notion.
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Post by Moose on May 29, 2014 17:44:32 GMT
Agreed.
Am a bit disconcerted to hear that there is a gift shop tho... tacky
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Post by Mari on Jun 7, 2014 12:40:27 GMT
If I remember correctly the proceeds go to the Anne Frank Foundation that contributes a lot to ceremonies, art etc. remembering WWII and the people who died.
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