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Ebola
Aug 1, 2014 18:14:26 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 1, 2014 18:14:26 GMT
I suppose this is not politics but it's international at least. The UK press is making a big deal out of the current Ebola outbreak and I can't work out if there is something to be genuinely worried about or if it's just scaremongering What do people think?
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Ebola
Aug 1, 2014 18:56:15 GMT
Post by JoeP on Aug 1, 2014 18:56:15 GMT
Scaremongering. Ebola is extremely serious because it has a very high mortality rate, but it's unlikely any carriers will reach the UK and it's unlikely to spread if they do.
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Post by jayme on Aug 1, 2014 21:11:58 GMT
An American aid worker who has caught it is being flown back here for treatment. We're all gonna die.
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Ebola
Aug 1, 2014 22:58:53 GMT
Post by JoeP on Aug 1, 2014 22:58:53 GMT
No - 20-30% of people who catch it survive.
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Ebola
Aug 2, 2014 8:12:46 GMT
Post by tangent on Aug 2, 2014 8:12:46 GMT
I've seen 50% to 90% quoted, although that was in Zaire in 1976, when medical facilitites were presumably not as good as they are today.
20% to 30% was the death rate of the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic - so called because it started in France - but I think we're better prepared for deadly outbreaks today.
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Ebola
Aug 2, 2014 14:09:33 GMT
Post by jayme on Aug 2, 2014 14:09:33 GMT
No - 20-30% of people who catch it survive. Oh, no worries, then.
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Ebola
Aug 4, 2014 10:00:28 GMT
Post by Alvamiga on Aug 4, 2014 10:00:28 GMT
That means that if four of your friends die, then you will be immune!
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Ebola
Aug 5, 2014 14:40:16 GMT
Post by spaceflower on Aug 5, 2014 14:40:16 GMT
I don't think that Ebola is a threat to the Western world. People die so fast. But it is certainly a threat to West Afriga. Those who try to help are met with superstition and hostility. www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/aug/04/ebola-risk-guinea-fruit-batsPeople don't want to change their eating or burial habits. It is easier to blame the helping workers or witchcraft. We hope for a vaccine and/or a medicine. But is the pharmaceutical industry interested to further research? They prefer creating life long medicines used in rich countries.
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Ebola
Aug 8, 2014 20:43:31 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 8, 2014 20:43:31 GMT
Yes .. the pharmaceutical industry often seems to me to be not very ethical - cf AIDS medicines which could be easily produced and supplied more cheaply to poor countries but are not.
Some people survived the Black Death even, though not many. I think that only AIDS is considered to have a one hundred percent mortality rate.
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Ebola
Aug 8, 2014 21:01:13 GMT
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Post by juju on Aug 8, 2014 21:01:13 GMT
But HIV can be controlled long term now. People can live for decades on the right drugs.
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Ebola
Aug 8, 2014 21:10:59 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 8, 2014 21:10:59 GMT
Aye. Only in the West do they tend to have them tho:(
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Ebola
Aug 8, 2014 21:19:22 GMT
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Post by juju on Aug 8, 2014 21:19:22 GMT
True. I was reading recently about how little has been spent on developing drugs for Ebola because it is seen as an African disease.
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Ebola
Aug 8, 2014 22:06:11 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 8, 2014 22:06:11 GMT
I can well imagine.
The more terrifying possibility is that there ARE drugs that have been developed but they have never been made public because it is .. an 'African disease.'
Were it to break out in LA, I wonder how long it would take before there were drugs.
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Ebola
Aug 8, 2014 22:21:25 GMT
Post by juju on Aug 8, 2014 22:21:25 GMT
The two American doctors who caught it and returned to the USA have been treated with an experimental drug - as far as I know, they have both survived.
However, Obama has said there are no plans so far to use it in Africa, as it is still experimental. I can see the need for caution, but it's not like it's an untested vaccine given to healthy people - surely if you've already got Ebola you'd be prepared to try anything, if there's such a low survival rate anyway.
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Ebola
Oct 3, 2014 5:18:11 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 3, 2014 5:18:11 GMT
NEWS FLASH!!!!
We have our first Ebola person in the public. Dallas Texas. He went to a hospital and they didn't realize it was Ebola. When he returned to the hospital In worse condition they realized what it was. The CDC is trying to quarantine at least 100 to 120 people he came in contact with. That is just two hundred miles south of where I live.
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Ebola
Oct 3, 2014 5:20:18 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 3, 2014 5:20:18 GMT
And that is not including the people they have overlooked. Earlier today they said the number was around 80. So they really have no idea how many he came in contact with.
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Ebola
Oct 3, 2014 13:50:32 GMT
Post by tangent on Oct 3, 2014 13:50:32 GMT
NEWS FLASH!!!! We have our first Ebola person in the public. Dallas Texas. He went to a hospital and they didn't realize it was Ebola. When he returned to the hospital In worse condition they realized what it was. The CDC is trying to quarantine at least 100 to 120 people he came in contact with. That is just two hundred miles south of where I live. The odds are you're much more likely to be shot by a deranged gunman.
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Ebola
Oct 3, 2014 15:15:14 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 3, 2014 15:15:14 GMT
I suppose if you has a choice I'd rather be shot be a gunman in general. But then again does on become delirious with Ebola to the point you don't know what's going on. If there one thing I've learned, never say never.
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Post by Miisa on Oct 3, 2014 15:17:39 GMT
The odds are you're much more likely to be shot by a deranged gunman. I had to read that three times before I realised the last word wasn't 'penguin'.
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Ebola
Oct 3, 2014 20:36:58 GMT
Post by jayme on Oct 3, 2014 20:36:58 GMT
Actually, he's most likely going to get spun silly by a tornado during an earthquake.
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Ebola
Oct 3, 2014 23:46:52 GMT
Post by Moose on Oct 3, 2014 23:46:52 GMT
As far as I know none of the people who were quarantined have been infected
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 4, 2014 5:09:29 GMT
Actually, he's most likely going to get spun silly by a tornado during an earthquake. Don't forget you most likely will be in the same tornado I will get caught up in. After all you have earthquakes too nowadays, maybe not as much as me down here. At least we can have fun getting dizzy while being shook about.
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 5:11:13 GMT
Post by kingedmund on Oct 4, 2014 5:11:13 GMT
The odds are you're much more likely to be shot by a deranged gunman. I had to read that three times before I realised the last word wasn't 'penguin'. Yep. You've still got penguins on the brain. LOL! Missed you too.
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 5:19:04 GMT
Post by kingedmund on Oct 4, 2014 5:19:04 GMT
As far as I know none of the people who were quarantined have been infected We will know more in a couple of weeks if someone goes to the hospital sick that they didn't know came in contact with him. I am sure that they missed a few. Heck! I can't even remember what I had for lunch yesterday much less who I talked to three days ago at a store or food place or etc.. But it really is not on my radar at the moment.
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 14:52:41 GMT
Post by jayme on Oct 4, 2014 14:52:41 GMT
Actually, he's most likely going to get spun silly by a tornado during an earthquake. Don't forget you most likely will be in the same tornado I will get caught up in. After all you have earthquakes too nowadays, maybe not as much as me down here. At least we can have fun getting dizzy while being shook about. Unless I go to Kansas City or Topeka, in which case I'll get shot in a tornado during an earthquake.
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 15:34:04 GMT
Post by tangent on Oct 4, 2014 15:34:04 GMT
The odds are you're much more likely to be shot by a deranged gunman. I had to read that three times before I realised the last word wasn't 'penguin'. That too
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 16:45:28 GMT
Post by Miisa on Oct 4, 2014 16:45:28 GMT
It's just that one of my email addys contain derangedpenguin and I have used it as an online alias at times. It just seems the logical next word after "deranged" to me at this point.
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 17:16:10 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 4, 2014 17:16:10 GMT
That's funny!
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 18:03:25 GMT
Post by jayme on Oct 4, 2014 18:03:25 GMT
*agrees*
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Ebola
Oct 4, 2014 20:20:10 GMT
Post by tangent on Oct 4, 2014 20:20:10 GMT
It's just that one of my email addys contain derangedpenguin and I have used it as an online alias at times. It just seems the logical next word after "deranged" to me at this point. I wonder if that was at the back of my mind and I conflated the two ideas.
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