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Post by spaceflower on Mar 26, 2015 23:08:50 GMT
I did not even know that there were pilots who wanted to commit suicide and mass murder when flying an airplane. But today I learnt that the tragedy of the plane crash at the French alps was even worse. The co-pilot did it on purpose. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32063587After 9/11 no terrorists can enter cockpit. But noone can enter cockpit if the pilot is against it, not even the crew.
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Post by Moose on Mar 27, 2015 1:53:51 GMT
I do not know what the word labile means but I would say that terrorism is still probably the biggest threat. I think, though, that there should have been a means for the pilot to get back into the cockpit even if the door was closed against him - I do not understand why there was not
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Post by Alvamiga on Mar 27, 2015 7:48:40 GMT
The real danger is mindless bureaucratic decisions like the one to lock everyone out of the cockpit without exception. Tightening security is one thing, but the cheapest, quickest option is often far from the best. Some of the airlines, such as Easy Jet were recently trying to push for single pilot flights to save costs as they claimed the planes were so incredibly safe. This shows how dangerous such short-line thinking is!
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 27, 2015 18:00:29 GMT
The crew can open the cockpit with a code, if the pilot should be unconscious and not able to open himself. But the pilot can prevent the door from opening. This is to protect the pilot and cockpit from terrorists who might torture the crew to get the code. www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/32083112
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Post by Alvamiga on Mar 27, 2015 19:44:46 GMT
If there were two people in there they'd still not need to do that. Really there should be three because one could have always attacked the other and then done what he did.
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Post by tangent on Mar 28, 2015 0:10:57 GMT
There has to be a compromise on safety and probability. Yes, one person could attack the other but if the co-pilot wants to commit suicide, he isn't going to attack the person at his side, he's going to seek help from them.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 28, 2015 3:00:11 GMT
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Post by Moose on Mar 28, 2015 3:12:52 GMT
There has to be a compromise on safety and probability. Yes, one person could attack the other but if the co-pilot wants to commit suicide, he isn't going to attack the person at his side, he's going to seek help from them. ? help in what way?
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Post by tangent on Mar 28, 2015 14:41:42 GMT
I guess that's why people ring the Samaritans.
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Post by kingedmund on Apr 4, 2015 2:10:44 GMT
That happen halfway durning my San Antonio Trip the day that Jo texted me. Makes me more fearful of flying than ever before.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 9:08:18 GMT
Admittedly, I was quite shocked about the plane crash and when I learned that the pilot had crashed it on purpose. It is horrible, but I think it is still very rare that a pilot decides to not only kill himself, but to kill himself by crashing a plane full of passengers. I don't mean to say this makes the whole ting less horrible, but I would probably still be more scared of bad weather or birds or other accidents then of a suicidal pilot.
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Post by spaceflower on Apr 5, 2015 1:59:22 GMT
That may be so. But I have this terrible sinking feeling when I think of the crew and especially the captain, knowing what was to happen. The captain getting desperate, knowing that he and everyone else will die, he will never see his family again, his children will grow up without him. "Um Gottes Willen, mach die Tür auf!" But the co-pilot says nothing, just silence. The captain screams: "Mach die verdammte Tür auf!“ The passengers scream. And then total silence. I don't think I ever can forget that. And I will be reminded if I ever think of flying again, and when my daughter travels by air. www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-03/second-black-box-confirms-germanwings-co-pilot-acts-deliberate/6370520
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