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Swearing
Jun 11, 2016 7:45:24 GMT
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Post by juju on Jun 11, 2016 7:45:24 GMT
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Post by JoeP on Jun 11, 2016 9:31:44 GMT
Bloody right. I like to use "bloody" on forums with American people. I'm glad the article confirms that it sounds British!
I don't have much idea how much I swear in real life, I mean speaking. Certainly less to none with family, more with work colleagues.
Suomeksi ... saatana! Perkele!
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Post by Moose on Jun 11, 2016 14:22:48 GMT
Mitta Vittua. I win.
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Post by JoeP on Jun 11, 2016 14:32:26 GMT
Such language!
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Post by JoeP on Jun 11, 2016 14:33:37 GMT
Don't think much of your spelling though.
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Post by juju on Jun 11, 2016 15:26:27 GMT
It wasn't mentioned in the article, but one of the most common Brit words that Americans don't use (AFAIK) is'bollocks'. As in 'Well, that was a load of old bollocks' and 'Bollocks to that!' etc. I confess I say bollocks a lot.
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Post by jayme on Jun 11, 2016 15:41:35 GMT
We have 'bullshit' for that.
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Post by JoeP on Jun 11, 2016 17:18:27 GMT
Buggery bollocks.
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Post by Kye on Jun 11, 2016 17:35:13 GMT
I often (sadly) say "fuckity-fuck-fuck-fuck".
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Post by jayme on Jun 11, 2016 19:31:26 GMT
My middle school history teacher would divide the class into two teams so we could compete against each other in current events. He always named one team 'Us' and the other team, 'Them'. My sister told me he used to let the teams choose their own names until her class came along. One side called themselves the Mofos, and the other team called themselves the Bufus. The teacher pretended he didn't know what they meant and let them be Mofos and Bufus all year, but never let us choose our names again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 9:16:09 GMT
I have to admit (and that is embarrassing) that I only swear in English these days, pretty much never in German. I do it more than I should, mostly at home when I get annoyed or angry with something, or on my bike when car drivers are not careful and come close to running me over. In that case, I often mouth "as****e", but I also use "bloody" a lot of the f-word which I'm really trying to stop. So often, if I catch myself starting to use the f-word, it will end up being "Ffffff...".
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Post by Mari on Jun 12, 2016 11:03:23 GMT
Fuck is becoming pretty normal here in the Netherlands as well, but the number one in the Netherlands is shit. Interesting that our choice swear words are of English origin. If I swear in English, it's generally fuck, bloody or eejit (which is Irish, I know). I don't swear a whole lot though. I really try not to.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jun 12, 2016 11:08:59 GMT
I say "fruitloop" a lot these days as a swear word. I barely consider bugger, bloody or crap to be swear words, but that's my Aussiness I guess. Especially "bloody", that really just seems an adjective unless I use it as "bloody hell" in which case it is swearing. The rest of the time it's just like "that bloody commercial" or "I was bloody hungover" or something.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2016 0:45:46 GMT
Considering I grew up in a working class household where one parent was a construction worker, I was exposed to a huge variety of emphatic language.
Despite my father's liberal use of emphatic language, he pointedly advised my brother and I to not get too prolific with our public usage of emphatic language, as overuse would dull the impact of the emphasis one is attempting to impart to the communication. Evidently, it stuck. As a seventh grader (age 12), I and about ten others in my age cohort were placed in a classroom where the class was split with another group, slightly larger than ours, all of the cohort a year younger than mine....about 16 sixth graders. In due time, animosities grew between the cohorts and, evidently, in fit of group revenge the sixth graders reported to the teacher that the seventh graders were wantonly engaged in prolific profanity. The teacher secretly polled the sixth graders and found that of the 11 seventh graders, two of them, both males, were notable in not using profanity in school. Surprised, I was named as one of those two and escaped whatever corrective measures were brought to bear. That very afternoon, after the final bell, as I was emptying my locker and closing up, I turned to leave only to have a kid whom I resented perpetrate an annoying action by stepping on the back of the heel of my shoe as I walked away, disloging my shoe ('scoring' one's victim, IIRC). It grated me no end and I lost my temper and turned to chase him down the crowded school hallway, screaming at the top of my lungs, almost my entire emphatic volcabulary, directed at my torturer.
I proceeded through a pretty typical American youth and came out with a few persistent quirks. I tend to use emphatic language when I am frustrated or angry. I use the f-bomb forms a fair amount, sometimes almost like commas in sentences. My really angry language tends to go heavily 'potty'...shit and its derivatives increase their count presence in my growled responses. I also can devolve to blaspheme, usually for shock value, as none of it means anything to me....it usually comes out in instances of transient minor body trauma...smashed thumb kind of stuff.
So...Jesus H. Christ! -- Ain't that fuck-all for a bunch of shit from god-damned diarhhea-spewing dickhead like me?
I also have replacement euphemisms. My favorite is the term 'shiploads'. It, of course is to describe large amounts of anything. A ship is usually a huge transport vehicle which carries lots of things at once in its hold. It also sounds like 'shitloads', which is an emphatic term for...a lot of things. The listener hears what they want.
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Post by Moose on Jun 15, 2016 1:39:26 GMT
I swear a lot - it's a habit I picked up in my early teens and it has never left me. The only swear words I don't care for are racially abusive ones. I also don't like the word 'cunt' very much but I will use it in extremis.
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Swearing
Jun 15, 2016 13:45:15 GMT
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Post by tangent on Jun 15, 2016 13:45:15 GMT
Society tends to protect children from swearing but the media is quite happy to sponsor adults who swear a lot. Children must think you can't be an adult unless you swear. I've noticed teenagers and young people swear frequently, perhaps to appear grown up, but their swearing often disappears when they do grow up.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2016 14:01:23 GMT
I don't think it disappears. I think more mature communicators realize that if one overuses profanity, the profanity loses its emphatic nature. The excessive profanity leads listeners to discount the profanity first, then the rest of the message, and finally the speakers themselves. Mature speakers realize that judicious, and spare, usage of profanity gets much more attention. The potty-mouth will have most of their messages largely ignored; the abstemious will harvest a great deal more attentive listeners when they, upon rare occasion, utter a loud profanity...which is what I expect is the purpose of profanity, any way.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 15, 2016 19:21:15 GMT
Fuck is becoming pretty normal here in the Netherlands as well, but the number one in the Netherlands is shit. Interesting that our choice swear words are of English origin. If I swear in English, it's generally fuck, bloody or eejit (which is Irish, I know). I don't swear a whole lot though. I really try not to. Did you learn any Japanese profanity whilst in Japan? The only one I remember is "bakutari", although I think 'shishi' is 'piss' (which sounds like 'sheesh' in English)
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Swearing
Jun 16, 2016 15:39:20 GMT
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Post by Mari on Jun 16, 2016 15:39:20 GMT
Not really beyond Baka and other personal derogatory or offensive terms like kisama.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 16, 2016 19:15:23 GMT
Not really beyond Baka and other personal derogatory or offensive terms like kisama. No "Batuhaidu"...or "Ahtsuhoru"? If written, in katakana, of course.
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Post by Mari on Jun 18, 2016 15:21:25 GMT
Never heard of it, though I did realise yesterday that I also know kusoh which is more or less "shit" or something of that order.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 18, 2016 17:54:12 GMT
Never heard of it, though I did realise yesterday that I also know kusoh which is more or less "shit" or something of that order. They are 'borrow words'. Certainly you noticed the large number of 'borrowed words' adopted from English, no? They are my sad attempt at guessing what swear words the Japanese might have contracted from the occupation forces and subsequent close contact with Americans. The hin should have been the katakana reference. They would be approximations of English words built with syllabary sounds, like 'baisubaru'.
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Swearing
Jun 19, 2016 10:01:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 10:01:13 GMT
I have a young pupil (6th grade) who often says "What the fish" which I guess might be because his parents have probably told him not to use "what the f***".
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 19, 2016 13:56:38 GMT
I have a young pupil (6th grade) who often says "What the fish" which I guess might be because his parents have probably told him not to use "what the f***". Heh...most excellent. I'll bet the little yardape uses it incessantly, too. My favorite replacement for that is "fork". Kitchen implements are pretty intimidating, y'know... Also, see my earlier comment on my usage of the term "shiploads".
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