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Post by Moose on Sept 7, 2016 22:10:48 GMT
That I am going to have stopop eating spicy foods. I have had a couple of microwave curries in the last three days and I am really suffering - my digestive system will just not tolerate it anymore. Am sitting eating plain unsweetened yoghurt in an attempt to get it to calm down but the suffering is just not worth the pleasure at the time. They weren't even particularly spicy curries
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Post by JoeP on Sept 7, 2016 22:18:50 GMT
If your pain is high up, just under your ribs, ie in the stomach, then it could be ulcers. Which spicy food can make worse, and yoghurt isn't going to help as far as I know. If it's lower down, ie intestinal, it could be a disturbance to your microbiome - and the active cultures in live yoghurt can help.
What did you have to drink with the curries?
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Post by Moose on Sept 7, 2016 23:45:52 GMT
Beer. It's low down and it's not just pain but *looks prim* disturbance.
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Post by tangent on Sept 7, 2016 23:54:52 GMT
That's a shame because I know how much you like curries.
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Post by Miisa on Sept 8, 2016 6:06:23 GMT
I get all manner of disturbance from seemingly most foods these days. Keeping it low FODMAP and low spiced helps, as does my intermittent fasting. But it's a drag.
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Post by JoeP on Sept 8, 2016 9:48:58 GMT
This all points to a disturbance of your intestinal flora. Yoghurt ought to be good, as long as it claims live cultures on the tin. I mean tub.
Probiotic supplements are supposed (by some) to help, but they're not medically regulated so you can't be sure any individual product works.
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Post by JoeP on Sept 8, 2016 9:49:31 GMT
I'm keen on finding ways for everyone to continue their curry and beer intake.
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Post by tangent on Sept 8, 2016 13:24:51 GMT
I had a curry and beer this lunchtime. Not an authentic curry because it was made in an English pub but quite satisfying. The rice had lots of interesting brown bits in it.
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Post by Moose on Sept 8, 2016 23:46:46 GMT
I do not want to know what they might have been.
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Post by tangent on Sept 9, 2016 0:21:40 GMT
Spices like cloves, and a star shape thing. Pat knew its name but I'd not seen it before.
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Post by Moose on Sept 10, 2016 4:37:28 GMT
I fished a fairy fragrant leaf out of one of mine recently. And then ate it anyway.
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Post by JoeP on Sept 10, 2016 10:31:33 GMT
I fished a fairy fragrant leaf out of one of mine recently. And then ate it anyway. You didn't?
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Post by Moose on Sept 10, 2016 18:43:05 GMT
Yes, that is the spitting image of me.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 15, 2016 4:07:38 GMT
I used to struggle with GERD. Man, that was nasty. It was pain from the sternum up to the uvula. Now under control with OTC medications suggested by my physician (Prilosec). The first thing which used to set off my GERD was wine, which is why I never learned to appreciate wine. I can now have an occasional small glass of wine without adverse results.
My current problem is the side-effect of one of my HPB medications, lisinopril. It causes excess 'sinus congestion' and consequent post nasal drip which makes me do a lot of 'throat clearing'. I have found that milk fats (milk, cheese, ice cream) and certain vegetable oils (soy, primarily) aggravate the condition. I have attempted to switch to almond milk and to avoid, as much as possible, milk products. But...as I have oft noted, I believe in cheeses; I have accepted them as my personal savor. I also have a weakness for ice cream. And gravy.
My experience is that as a body ages, it changes. When it changes, sometimes some things which were staples of a lifestyle become detriments later in life. We have to adapt. Test it by cessation...stop intake for a specific, extended period of time (like more than two weeks) and see how your body responds. If your lower abdominal rumblings are still doing the same thing, then you know it ain't those sources.
And then, there is Gas-X. Here, it is an OTC dietary aid called 'simethicone'....it's for those who generate gas in response to certain foods, like spicy cuisine and legumes galore. Sometimes the 'tummy rumbles' are transient and due to something like having taken an antibiotic which inadvertantly reduced some gut flora, in which case, the probiotics might help, if they're the right biotics. Gas-X is for such transient and temporary conditions.
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Post by tangent on Sept 15, 2016 7:43:34 GMT
Prilosec is available over the counter in the UK - it's sold as Omeprazole - but it's expensive and only available in 10mg tablets. £10 for 14 tablets. The pharmacist won't let you buy two packets at once because they expect you to get it on prescription from your doctor (£8.40 for a months supply).
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 15, 2016 14:15:15 GMT
It is less expensive as a prescription? LOL. That rather defeats the purpose of allowing it to go to over-the-counter status, doesn't it?
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Post by Moose on Sept 16, 2016 4:07:15 GMT
A lot of people get free prescriptions.
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Post by Moose on Sept 16, 2016 4:07:55 GMT
God I actually need to look into that to make sure I am still eligible .. I might not be. That had never occurred to me before
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Post by juju on Sept 16, 2016 7:16:55 GMT
I've had omeprazole twice recently but I found it seemed to make me anxious. Or at least I had anxiety following taking it.
At first I didn't link it at all, but it seems rather a coincidence, so now I'm worried about taking it again. There's anecdotal stuff out there but afaik there shouldn't be a connection. Hmmm.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 16, 2016 13:36:36 GMT
Here, long term use is linked to chronic kidney disease. Guess what? If you start one of these class of medications, you can expect to have to take it the remainder of your life...one a day. Guess what? I've been taking them now for more than twenty years. Guess what? I have chronic kidney disease and a nephrologist.
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Post by tangent on Sept 16, 2016 14:28:57 GMT
I've been taking Omeprazole for 15 years without any side-effects (apart from initial problems with my balance), and am now on quite a high dose. No problems with my kidneys so far.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 16, 2016 20:25:20 GMT
Congratulations. I do not know that my nephrological condition is the result of my medications. It could well be as the result of my HPB, which is yet another causative factor. I didn't even know it existed until they started doing HPB testing and it does not impede me in any way. I do know that each individual biochemistry tends to be unique, and that medicine makes mistakes, sometimes some very egregious ones.
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