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Post by whollygoats on Jun 9, 2018 0:31:19 GMT
So....
I am seriously considering a trip to Mt. Hope, Ontario.
This would mean, at minimum, flying in to Buffalo, renting a car and driving to Hamilton, where Mt. Hope is the site of an airport with vintage flying aircraft.
IIRC, Buffalo is near where Shake lives. It's pretty far from Montreal, but I don't know if anyone else is near Niagara Falls and Erie/Ontario lake link.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 9, 2018 0:44:12 GMT
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Post by Kye on Jun 9, 2018 2:40:46 GMT
My cousin lives in Hamilton...
When were you thinking about going?
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 9, 2018 3:04:41 GMT
I haven't gotten that far.
I'm thinking a time when schools are in session. Probably best would be right when schools are going back in the fall. When the family groups were tied down to humdrum.
I'll need clear skies over Hamilton in order to fly. I'm thinking like late September or early October.
(Looks like I need to contact the flight center and see how they run on the calendar and how they schedule flights.)
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Post by Kye on Jun 9, 2018 10:41:14 GMT
Hmm. Those dates are problematic for me --lots going on work-wise. Too bad Montreal is not closer... you could have popped in and had a mini-moot!
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Post by Shake on Jun 18, 2018 15:18:21 GMT
Google Maps says Hamilton is just under 3 hours drive from where I live. Montreal we did several years ago and was a bit over 5 hours drive, I think. Many, many years ago, I camped with the Boy Scouts in the Stoney Creek area, right up on the lake. My only issues with going there are that I have neither a passport nor an "extended" drivers license (which would also allow me to cross the border).
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Post by JoeP on Jun 18, 2018 15:31:36 GMT
No passport? Americans ...
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Post by Mari on Jun 18, 2018 16:35:28 GMT
Haha, yeah, that's so unimaginable here. Though we do have an alternative within Europe which is the European ID card. It's cheaper than a passport. A driver's license is only valid within the country that issued it.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 18, 2018 19:42:46 GMT
It used to be that passports were not required to cross the border in to Canada. That disappeared during the W years, IIRC.
Most USers have no need for any steenkin passports.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 18, 2018 19:47:25 GMT
Haha, yeah, that's so unimaginable here. Though we do have an alternative within Europe which is the European ID card. It's cheaper than a passport. A driver's license is only valid within the country that issued it. Really? Then how do they handle all the arrivals from points elsewhere who rent a hire-car?
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Post by JoeP on Jun 18, 2018 21:21:43 GMT
The drivers licence is valid in other countries as proof of being licensed to drive, but not as proof of identity. I suppose.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 18, 2018 22:12:24 GMT
The drivers licence is valid in other countries as proof of being licensed to drive, but not as proof of identity. I suppose. Hmmm....Proof of ability to drive, provided the new nation accepts that you are who your driver's ID says you are. Like passports are so much better at doing that.... I suppose that fake driver's licenses are not that difficult, compared to passports, but passports are not without forgery.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jun 19, 2018 0:24:26 GMT
Not having a passport is indeed an odd concept. I think you might be the first person I know that doens't have one, SHake.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 19, 2018 2:16:41 GMT
Having a passport marks one out as a 'cosmopolitan' amongst USers.
Sometimes, we are viewed with suspicion.
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Post by tangent on Jun 19, 2018 14:12:02 GMT
Viewed with suspicion? Why does that not surprise me?
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jun 19, 2018 23:17:46 GMT
Seems so odd, especially as you are so close to the Canadian border you'd think most everybody in Portland would have a passport!
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 20, 2018 2:59:40 GMT
Very few Portlanders have reason to go to British Columbia.
We can grow our own cannabis right here, now.
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Post by Shake on Jun 25, 2018 13:08:31 GMT
No passport? Americans ... I tried to respond to this post last week, but a browser crash ate my post, and then I had other more pressing issues arise. Anyway ... it's a case of not ever having needed one before. Having proof of US citizenship (birth certificate, etc.) used to be sufficient to get into Canada. I could also get what NY calls an 'extended driver's license' which would allow me entry (by land) to Canada. I really don't recall needing anything special — again, may have just been a birth certificate — for our honeymoon, during which we cruised to the Bahamas, either. I'd love to see more of the world, and so I know it's something I'll need to get eventually at some point. A few years ago though, the cost of one shot up dramatically here, which is another factor in not getting one.
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Post by Shake on Jun 25, 2018 13:11:20 GMT
Seems so odd, especially as you are so close to the Canadian border you'd think most everybody in Portland would have a passport! Similarly, you might think more people in my general area would too, especially with Niagara Falls being so close. You can, of course, still experience them while staying on the US side ... but really, the Canadian side is better.
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Post by Kye on Jun 25, 2018 14:46:17 GMT
People in Canada near the US border (which is practically everyone anyway) used to like to go shopping in the US because things tend to be cheaper there. It recent years, we've started needing a passport to cross over, so people started to get them. But with our dollar at a serious disadvantage compared to the US dollar, it hardly seems worth it. A lot of people are just staying home (plus there's the disquieting political situation in the US), so maybe passports won't be a big priority to Canadians anymore either.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 25, 2018 14:56:49 GMT
Well...I'm willing to bet that there will be a shipload of midwestern USers who will be passporting up for the new situation come this September.
Watch out Winnipeg.
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Post by tangent on Jun 25, 2018 20:00:50 GMT
...plus there's the disquieting political situation in the US. Are you saying Canadians don't like Donald Trump?
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jun 26, 2018 10:12:44 GMT
Isn't that why they legalised recreational cannabis? Ease the pain of Trump as neighbour. I certainly have no desire to enter the US at this point.
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Post by tangent on Jun 26, 2018 19:45:40 GMT
I wanted to visit the US in 1968 when my colleagues were investigating software problems and there was a chance I would go with them, but I've gone off the idea now. Ever since... well, I suppose George W Bush.
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Post by whollygoats on Jun 26, 2018 21:45:31 GMT
I wanted to visit the US in 1968 when my colleagues were investigating software problems and there was a chance I would go with them, but I've gone off the idea now. Ever since... well, I suppose George W Bush. Well, yeah....That would do it. I would think that Ronnie might well have done it, as well. Then, there was that whole fecal matter through the fan with Tricky Dick. All of that since 1968. And....'software' problems of 1968? What, did somebody's stack of punch cards get shuffled wrong?
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Post by robert on Jul 26, 2018 1:16:53 GMT
I wouldn't recommend staying in Buffalo.
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Post by whollygoats on Jul 26, 2018 3:47:05 GMT
I wouldn't recommend staying in Buffalo. Not my intent, but it is the nearest US international airport. I would probably rent a car and drive to Hamilton, Ontario, to stay, as that's where the tarmac is.
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Post by robert on Jul 26, 2018 9:30:29 GMT
I've not been to Hamilton. However, I would hope it is more pleasant than Buffalo. The movie 'Buffalo 66' accurately portrays this dreadfully depressing city.
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