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Aug 4, 2018 15:49:10 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 4, 2018 15:49:10 GMT
So what's the difference between raised and cake donuts (I've never heard the terms)? Granted, I don't remember the last time I ate a donut.. 'Raised' doughnuts use yeast as a leavening agent. 'Cake' doughnuts use baking powder as a leavening agent. From the Wikipedia article:
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Aug 4, 2018 16:19:51 GMT
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Post by Kye on Aug 4, 2018 16:19:51 GMT
Thanks, Goat!
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Aug 4, 2018 16:57:53 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 4, 2018 16:57:53 GMT
And...I suspect that since you are in Montreal, you are probably within a half (quarter?) mile radius of a Tim Horton's, purveyors of fine donuts to Canuckistan since forever.
Go...Find one...Sample.
But beware.
Do NOT tell your cardiologist.
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Aug 4, 2018 18:10:18 GMT
Post by Kye on Aug 4, 2018 18:10:18 GMT
I'm doing low carb at the moment, so kindly get behind me, Satan.
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Aug 4, 2018 18:53:23 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 4, 2018 18:53:23 GMT
More...From the same wiki article:
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Aug 4, 2018 19:06:54 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 4, 2018 19:06:54 GMT
I'm doing low carb at the moment, so kindly get behind me, Satan. Ah.... Next I shall be required to seek sympathy.
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Post by Kye on Aug 4, 2018 20:47:07 GMT
You can bring that up with the Stones.
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Aug 4, 2018 20:48:26 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 4, 2018 20:48:26 GMT
I still can't work out which one it is that I like
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Aug 4, 2018 21:55:01 GMT
Post by Kye on Aug 4, 2018 21:55:01 GMT
You're allowed to like both!
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Aug 4, 2018 23:44:55 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 4, 2018 23:44:55 GMT
Raised are more bread like, while cake are more spongy and cake-like. The famed Krispy Kreme donuts of the American South are raised donuts with a lemon glaze. I think they are awful. I tend to like plain cake donuts....with a touch of nutmeg. Powdered sugar is nice, as is a light glaze. Applesauce and spice is a nice special. They come in full chocolate with chocolate icing, too. I'm not too sure what you are referencing when you call something 'those American ones' regarding donuts.
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Aug 4, 2018 23:52:37 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 4, 2018 23:52:37 GMT
Here...This is a Tim Horton's case: I'd be ordering up a box of mixed Timbits, myself. They are all cake donut batter. Plain, old fashioned, or honey dipped. Blueberry, too. Mmmm....Sour cream glazed needs a try.
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Aug 5, 2018 4:46:46 GMT
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Post by Elis on Aug 5, 2018 4:46:46 GMT
I loved Tim Horton's and especially the Timbits when we were in Canada many years ago. I think we went there a few times.
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Aug 5, 2018 6:50:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 6:50:05 GMT
I don't like doughnuts and donuts
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Aug 5, 2018 15:47:47 GMT
Post by Mari on Aug 5, 2018 15:47:47 GMT
Raised are more bread like, while cake are more spongy and cake-like. The famed Krispy Kreme donuts of the American South are raised donuts with a lemon glaze. I think they are awful. I'm not too sure what you are referencing when you call something 'those American ones' regarding donuts. Those are the ones sold as real American donuts over here. They're too sugary and sticky and yuck.
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Aug 5, 2018 18:09:36 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 5, 2018 18:09:36 GMT
Raised are more bread like, while cake are more spongy and cake-like. The famed Krispy Kreme donuts of the American South are raised donuts with a lemon glaze. I think they are awful. I'm not too sure what you are referencing when you call something 'those American ones' regarding donuts. Those are the ones sold as real American donuts over here. They're too sugary and sticky and yuck. I concur entirely. They are filled with air and covered with way too much sugar glazing. They deflate when you bite in to them and then become an amorphous mass of gooey sweet guck in your mouth (which the cultists describe as 'melting in your mouth'). Those are the worst possible examples of 'raised' yeast donuts, which I don't tend to like, any way. Be assured that most donuts in the US do NOT taste like Krsipy Kreme. Places like Dunkin Donuts, Winchells, and most independent doughnut makers, make donuts which are more like the selection of delicious treats which Tim Horton offers.
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Aug 6, 2018 9:19:15 GMT
Post by raspberrybullets on Aug 6, 2018 9:19:15 GMT
Also, cake donuts seem fried in lard which I find gross. But yeast donuts are usually (not always) fried in vegetable oil. This is a specious claim. Here in the US, donuts are donuts. There is no distinction as to whether they were fried in lard, or in vegetable oil. The thing is, all donut outlets usually offer both 'raised' and 'cake' donuts. Do you think that nearly every donut shop in the US is going to maintain TWO hot fat vats, one with lard and one with veggy oil, just so they can provide both types of donuts? NFL. It is difficult enough to maintain one fry vat, much less two. Instead, every donut maker I know makes different batches of dough and then fries them in the same hot oil vat, whether it is lard or veggy oil. As a note, most makers have left lard behind and started using vegetable oil because it tends to be cheaper, easier to obtain, and still provides an adequate cooking medium. There are lard fanciers and they maintain that the flavor is far better....but, I've never been able to ascertain any real flavor difference. The different donuts are NOT fried in different oils. Both raised and cake donuts are cooked in either medium. I made a point of reading the entire wiki article on donuts and not once in the entire article did they even address the lard/veggy oil distinction. They didn't even address the need to maintain consistent oil temperature when cooking. I would actually expect most places to have more than one frier, but I wouldn't expect them to use different fats. I'm talking about individual shops - the ones that do yeast donuts usually use veg oil and the shops that do cake donuts seem to do lard. But we don't have the kind of donut shops you seem to over there, so maybe it's normal in the US to have all types of donuts in one shop. Over here most places would only do one type of donut. Least the places I frequent, like a bakery or a donut van that only does one donut and that's about it. We have Krispy Kreme and I don't find those donuts very good at all. This is the sort of donut I like. Yeasty and filled with jam.
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Aug 6, 2018 11:42:18 GMT
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Post by Elis on Aug 6, 2018 11:42:18 GMT
This is the one common in Germany. I prefer the ones like Dunkin Donuts offers them.
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Aug 6, 2018 12:20:47 GMT
Post by Kye on Aug 6, 2018 12:20:47 GMT
There's a Polish donut place near where I used to live that had donuts filled with plum jam. So good! I wish I could eat sweets...
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Aug 6, 2018 17:50:06 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 6, 2018 17:50:06 GMT
They have real paczki, then? I think of them like the jelly filled raz showed us, above. I had a coworker of Polish heritage and every Fat Tuesday, she would bring in filled donuts for everybody, but I still don't think I've tasted the 'real deal' when it comes to paczki.
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Aug 6, 2018 18:03:42 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 6, 2018 18:03:42 GMT
One aspect which interests me is the 'hole' the donut. The source of the Timbits, or, as they are known in the US, donut holes.
I found out it actually has a purpose....even cooking. Punching out the center allows a more even cooking and avoids the possibility of undercooked dough in the center.
I've run across undercooked dough in things like fritters and it is no fun. But, when it comes to things like filled donuts (per Razz illustration), I wonder if they cook them longer, to avoid having undercooked centers, or whether they don't worry about it because the eaters will never be able to distinguish it from the injected jam/custard with which they are filled? Frosted bars seem to avoid this need to punch holes in the fried dough, too.
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Aug 6, 2018 19:22:46 GMT
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Post by Elis on Aug 6, 2018 19:22:46 GMT
I have never had a doughnut with an undercooked centre. And the jam often isn't in the centre.
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Aug 6, 2018 19:32:32 GMT
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Post by tangent on Aug 6, 2018 19:32:32 GMT
I have never had a doughnut with an undercooked centre. And the jam often isn't in the centre. O-o-h, that's is something I must correct.
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Aug 7, 2018 4:36:23 GMT
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Post by Elis on Aug 7, 2018 4:36:23 GMT
Really? I've had lots where the jam was anywhere but the centre.
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Aug 8, 2018 6:22:20 GMT
Post by Mari on Aug 8, 2018 6:22:20 GMT
Those are the ones sold as real American donuts over here. They're too sugary and sticky and yuck. I concur entirely. They are filled with air and covered with way too much sugar glazing. They deflate when you bite in to them and then become an amorphous mass of gooey sweet guck in your mouth (which the cultists describe as 'melting in your mouth'). Those are the worst possible examples of 'raised' yeast donuts, which I don't tend to like, any way. Be assured that most donuts in the US do NOT taste like Krsipy Kreme. Places like Dunkin Donuts, Winchells, and most independent doughnut makers, make donuts which are more like the selection of delicious treats which Tim Horton offers. I don't think we have any of those stores actually. Maybe in Amsterdam? The donuts I've seen sold are usually in the supermarket.
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Aug 11, 2018 22:17:29 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 11, 2018 22:17:29 GMT
Yeah I don't like the krispy kreme type things. The cakey ones are the ones I like then but they are increasingly difficult to get over here.
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Aug 17, 2018 20:02:41 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 17, 2018 20:02:41 GMT
I have a chocolate ring doughnut.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:59:12 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 17, 2018 21:59:12 GMT
Okay...A typical donut shape. Is it cake donut or raised donut? It's 'chocolate', but is the cake of the donut actually chocolate, or is it iced with chocolate icing, or both?
I bought a half dozen donuts today. I got two glazed old fashioneds, one glazed plain cake, two plain cakes with chocolate icing, and a plain chocolate cake.
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Aug 20, 2018 21:04:55 GMT
Post by Moose on Aug 20, 2018 21:04:55 GMT
just boring bread type donut with chocolate frosting. It's hard to get anything else now
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Aug 20, 2018 23:20:57 GMT
Post by tangent on Aug 20, 2018 23:20:57 GMT
Really? I've had lots where the jam was anywhere but the centre. That is quite shocking
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Aug 20, 2018 23:25:16 GMT
Post by whollygoats on Aug 20, 2018 23:25:16 GMT
Off-center jam?
Indeed?
I'm thunderstruck.
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