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Post by Moose on Oct 7, 2018 21:38:14 GMT
I was not keen, I am afraid. It was just too .. un Who like. I don't mean Jodi what not - though I wasn't thrilled by her either; she didn't have much presence I thought - but the whole thing was just so different. It might grow on me but .. meh.
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Post by tangent on Oct 7, 2018 21:49:50 GMT
I didn't like it either. There were too many dark and gloomy scenes and the science fiction content was more incidental than thought provoking.
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Post by Kye on Oct 7, 2018 22:15:57 GMT
I LOVE her! I thought it was super!
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Post by JoeP on Oct 8, 2018 7:38:19 GMT
She had plenty of presence, you nuts ...
Anyway I hope you will give it a few more episodes before you become bitter and jaded.
I was very worried about Bradley Walsh who've I've only seen as an annoying game show host, but he did OK.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Oct 8, 2018 10:29:16 GMT
I've only seen some preview clips, but I have to say it was the first time I ever thought Dr Who looked interesting enough to watch. I thought Jodi Whitaker or whatever her name is, has plenty of presence. Representation matters!
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Post by tangent on Oct 8, 2018 11:30:45 GMT
She comes across very differently from previous doctor's, a bit scatty at first but very competent and likeable.
I have no complaints about the doctor. It was hard to follow and not easy listening. I've watched it twice and still can't work some of it out. Star Trek is much easier to follow.
My feeling is that the producers wanted to model it on a crime drama.
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Post by JoeP on Oct 8, 2018 13:00:35 GMT
She's explicitly scatty in this episode because she's just regenerated and hasn't settled yet - she talks about this more than once
What in the story didn't you follow?
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Post by Kye on Oct 8, 2018 13:36:07 GMT
All the Doctors are weird in the beginning as part of their regeneration.
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Post by tangent on Oct 8, 2018 17:21:07 GMT
What in the story didn't you follow? The purpose of the electrical wires, the blue mushroom, why the train stopped, why Dr Who dropped through the ceiling of the train and didn't kill herself, the guy who appeared later on, why iron man climbed the crane, what he was doing on earth, why the target was a target, what he used to cheat. Some or all of those.
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Post by JoeP on Oct 8, 2018 18:51:48 GMT
The iron man came to earth in the blue mushroom (it's basically a spaceship) to catch the crane operator target (who had probably been chosen randomly) to prove himself - a leadership challenge ritual. He used the electrical wire wormy things to gather information, and that was cheating because he wasn't supposed to use any help. The Doctor dropped through the roof of the train because she had fallen out of the Tardis at the end of the previous season (apparently this often happens at regeneration time although I think that was a bit odd), and she didn't die because she's still full of regeneration energy. I suppose the train stopped because the electric worms damaged it.
That leaves the guy who appeared later on ... which guy?
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Post by Miisa on Oct 9, 2018 12:19:42 GMT
I liked it well enough. I the the first episode after regenerating the Doctors tend to be disoriented. I think the Tenth Doctor actually slept through most of his first episode.
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Post by Mari on Oct 10, 2018 10:48:16 GMT
I felt she quite resembled her predecessor in talking too much and too fast. I'm interested to see her find herself. The only concern I have is the fact that she didn't really seem to care about the death of Nan, even though one of the main points for all the doctors is that they sometimes feel too responsible for the death of the people who help them, even when it's by their own choice.
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Post by JoeP on Oct 10, 2018 16:25:47 GMT
That's a good point.
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Post by Alvamiga on Oct 11, 2018 20:28:09 GMT
I liked it well enough. I the the first episode after regenerating the Doctors tend to be disoriented. I think the Tenth Doctor actually slept through most of his first episode. The twelfth spent a while in his pyjamas, too!
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Post by Moose on Oct 11, 2018 22:04:40 GMT
I liked the Doctor well enough but the whole thing was just, as Col said, a bit ITV.
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Post by Kye on Oct 11, 2018 23:20:26 GMT
Okay, I'll bite: what's ITV
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Post by Alvamiga on Oct 12, 2018 1:12:11 GMT
ITV (Independant TeleVision) is a channel that was the original advertising-funded alternative to the BBC. They make a lot of dramas that just have a particular feel to them, often aimed at the less intellectual or mass-produced end of the market. A lot of second-rate acting or production involved.
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Post by Kye on Oct 12, 2018 1:35:39 GMT
Ah! Thanks, Alva.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 13, 2018 0:01:49 GMT
ITV (Independant TeleVision) is a channel that was the original advertising-funded alternative to the BBC. They make a lot of dramas that just have a particular feel to them, often aimed at the less intellectual or mass-produced end of the market. A lot of second-rate acting or production involved. So...Ready made for something like Doctor Who, which fairly revels in second-rate acting and low-budget production values?
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Post by Alvamiga on Oct 13, 2018 22:06:45 GMT
No, the programmes I'm thinking of are a whole other level!
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Post by Moose on Oct 13, 2018 23:17:08 GMT
Didn't think you'd ever seen DW Kelly
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 13, 2018 23:25:28 GMT
I've seen snippets over the years. Many of those 'just passing through the room' things when the program was on. Got it 'explained' to me in passing several times.
Each time I've seen it, I have honestly been so underwhelmed that I never continued watching it, nor did I ever wish to return to watch it again, or more.
I don't see what others see in it, as it frankly strikes me as something which started with very low production values and has maintained its cheesy and kitschy production values, despite having a major turnaround in terms of financial support. The premises are preposterous and the storyline entirely incoherent, but that has not stopped it from providing 'quality entertainment' to millions over decades.
If you like it, fine.
To me, it looks like another cult.
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Post by Moose on Oct 13, 2018 23:31:00 GMT
Well that's sort of the attraction though - the wobbly sets and the low production costs. Hey, the BBC did not have much of a budget to play with in the early sixties . The totally unconvincing monsters and the daleks with sink plungers for suckers are considered high points. Americans, with their slick sets and high production costs, just don't GET this sort of TV
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 13, 2018 23:36:27 GMT
Well that's sort of the attraction though - the wobbly sets and the low production costs. Hey, the BBC did not have much of a budget to play with in the early sixties . The totally unconvincing monsters and the daleks with sink plungers for suckers are considered high points. Americans, with their slick sets and high production costs, just don't GET this sort of TV Oh, sure they do. There is an entire subcult which thrives on old Japanese horror pictures. The Hunger Games are modern American upgrades of a cheesy Japanese horror show. And, there is a HUGE Doctor Who cult in the States. So much so that I am sick of seeing kitschy blue call boxes. What the hell happened to the plain ol' red phone boxes? The issue here is not Americans, but me. I don't 'get' Doctor Who. It doesn't tick over my curiosity at all. I watch snippets and find my attention wandering to things like my mosquito bite, or whether I left out enough food for the cats. Daleks and Tardises don't keep my interest. And I could give a rat's patoot who the 'next' Doctor is, but I think it is right time that they had one that is female. My bet is I'd find her almost as appallingly uninteresting as I have all the others.
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Post by Moose on Oct 13, 2018 23:37:41 GMT
Red ones are for the general public - the blue ones were specifically for the police. You don't see them any more though.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 13, 2018 23:43:19 GMT
Special are they?
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Post by Moose on Oct 13, 2018 23:44:59 GMT
Well yeah - they were for the police to put criminals in when they'd been arrested, among other things
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 13, 2018 23:47:55 GMT
Well, those allusions have probably escaped most USers. Most of them think it is like a special phone on the street to call the police. We assume they must have been placed in 'rough' districts, so those being assaulted could rush to them and summon an officer. Like a 'call button'.
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Post by Alvamiga on Oct 14, 2018 18:39:18 GMT
The time-travelling ability and infinite interior space are major features!
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Post by JoeP on Oct 14, 2018 20:05:09 GMT
I want a custard cream dispenser.
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