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Post by spaceflower on May 21, 2019 9:53:48 GMT
Most of them can. But I think the singer for Greece was too nervous or something. And Madonna sang out of tune, her second song was with autotune. Emma from Netherlands congratulated that she used autotune. "So thankful for tonight and Madonna's autotune!" It was funny but not exactly kind.
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Post by tangent on May 21, 2019 11:09:47 GMT
Haha!
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Post by spaceflower on May 21, 2019 11:24:30 GMT
ESC is live so anything can happen. Here are some unexpected moments from earlier ESC:
When Eurovision gets akward
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Post by Mari on May 21, 2019 13:45:58 GMT
Most of them can. But I think the singer for Greece was too nervous or something. And Madonna sang out of tune, her second song was with autotune. Emma from Netherlands congratulated that she used autotune. "So thankful for tonight and Madonna's autotune!" It was funny but not exactly kind. No, most of them can't: there were very few who were not off key at least once. Singing contests like The Voice are of a much higher standard than the Eurovision Song Festival
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Post by whollygoats on May 21, 2019 14:28:21 GMT
Europe needs it - it is a great party full of music and joy. Lots of people but no troubles. Compare football games and football hooligans. That's where the winners of these low-grade 'talent contests' get work...performing during the halftimes and commercial breaks. Because nine out of ten of them are incredibly bad to begin with...who else will listen to them?
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Post by whollygoats on May 21, 2019 14:32:07 GMT
Wait....Madonna was competing in Eurovision? Really? WTF?
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Post by Mari on May 21, 2019 14:55:38 GMT
Not competing, she was singing during the break. Rather badly I must add. Apparently one of the participants has written several of her songs for her, so I think it was probably as a favour (though a very expensive one) that she performed. Or under-performed.
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Post by Elis on May 21, 2019 16:06:10 GMT
I completely forgot about it this year. Don't think that is much of a loss, though.
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Post by tangent on May 21, 2019 18:24:02 GMT
You didn't miss much, Claudia. The Australian entry would have been fascinating if you were an engineer (three young maidens dancing on top of very long poles) but their song wasn't. Nothing about the British entry was memorable.
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Post by spaceflower on May 22, 2019 21:32:48 GMT
Most of them can. But I think the singer for Greece was too nervous or something. And Madonna sang out of tune, her second song was with autotune. Emma from Netherlands congratulated that she used autotune. "So thankful for tonight and Madonna's autotune!" It was funny but not exactly kind. No, most of them can't: there were very few who were not off key at least once. Singing contests like The Voice are of a much higher standard than the Eurovision Song Festival Did Duncan Laurence sing off key? Did John Lundvik sing off key? The juries (who should think more of the musical quality) voted for Sweden, North Macedonia, Netherlands and Italy as the first four. The public voted for Norway, Italy, Netherlands and Russa. ESC is not an audition for a role in an opera or a musical. Feeling is more important than perfection. The public does not care if a singer is off-key once. Anyone can make a mistake when the pressure is so strong. (My daughter sings in a choir and the audition was nervous.) The public is also influenced by the show. The best show was Australia's. (Personally I like the singing too, reminded me of Kate Bush.) The Netherlands did not have any special show (just a man singing behind a piano), but the song was very good, a heartfelt ballad which got better everytime one heard it.
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Post by Mari on May 26, 2019 12:36:44 GMT
No, most of them can't: there were very few who were not off key at least once. Singing contests like The Voice are of a much higher standard than the Eurovision Song Festival Did Duncan Laurence sing off key? Did John Lundvik sing off key? I said very few, not no one, see my quote above. Jurors have to choose from what's on offer. Doesn't mean the offer is actually any good. Making a mistake is very different between an amateur singer in a choir and a performer on TV trying to win a competition. That said, mistakes can be forgiven if other factors make up for the mistake. Screaming which is supposed to be singing, being dressed up as a chicken or hysterical visuals, etc. are not forgiving factors. And though feeling is important in singing, it can be ruined by being off-key at the wrong place entirely. I also never said I expected the singers to be perfect. I expect them to at least be good though. I've heard it many many times now (a bit too often actually. Can't turn on the radio or TV without hearing it). It's quite good, but I wish he hadn't won. Now we have to organise the whole shebang, which is a huge economic drain.
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Post by tangent on May 26, 2019 14:45:29 GMT
Now we have to organise the whole shebang, which is a huge economic drain. That's not a problem the UK will ever have to worry about.
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Post by JoeP on May 26, 2019 17:44:39 GMT
Now we have to organise the whole shebang, which is a huge economic drain. That's not a problem the UK will ever have to worry about. Australia might win one year and nominate the UK...
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Post by tangent on May 26, 2019 19:15:54 GMT
Aha, yes. They may even host it in Manchester.
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Post by Moose on May 26, 2019 23:26:57 GMT
You'd think that the even would make money not lose it
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Post by Mari on May 27, 2019 8:03:37 GMT
It could, if they weren't always competing to do things bigger and better than the previous year. But often new venues are built, expensive people are hired (i.e. Madonna), etc. The direct and indirect income from tourists just can't keep up. Same goes for most Olympic games by the way. In that sense ESF is the better option since you don't have to build a complete athletes housing complex and stadia.
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Post by tangent on May 27, 2019 17:55:10 GMT
ESF? European Social Fund? Emergency Support Function? Exchange Stabilization Fund?
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Post by JoeP on May 27, 2019 17:57:28 GMT
Europe Sans Frontieres? European Song Festival?
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Post by whollygoats on May 27, 2019 18:22:36 GMT
It's the European Song Festival, isn't it? How did it come be known as 'Eurovision'?
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Post by Mari on May 27, 2019 19:02:17 GMT
ESF? European Social Fund? Emergency Support Function? Exchange Stabilization Fund? Since we're talking about the European Song Festival...
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Post by JoeP on May 27, 2019 19:48:07 GMT
It's the European Song Festival, isn't it? How did it come be known as 'Eurovision'? Eurovision is an organisation of broadcasters, and the event is the Eurovision Song Contest. I'm assume "ESF" is something different.
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Post by whollygoats on May 27, 2019 19:55:15 GMT
European Song Farce.
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Post by Mari on May 31, 2019 8:46:29 GMT
It's the European Song Festival, isn't it? How did it come be known as 'Eurovision'? Eurovision is an organisation of broadcasters, and the event is the Eurovision Song Contest. I'm assume "ESF" is something different. It's still called the Eurovision Song Festival here in the Netherlands. Not sure when and why the UK switched to contest rather than festival?
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Post by JoeP on May 31, 2019 12:17:29 GMT
Eurovision Song Confusion.
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Post by ceptimus on Jun 1, 2019 0:50:02 GMT
It's still called the Eurovision Song Festival here in the Netherlands. Not sure when and why the UK switched to contest rather than festival? It's been called the ...contest here in the UK for as long as I can remember - at least thirty years I would say. As to why we call it that, I would say it's because the event is a contest rather than, you know, a festival.
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Post by JoeP on Jun 1, 2019 10:18:28 GMT
It's still called the Eurovision Song Festival here in the Netherlands. Not sure when and why the UK switched to contest rather than festival? It's been called the ...contest here in the UK for as long as I can remember - at least thirty years I would say. As to why we call it that, I would say it's because the event is a contest rather than, you know, a festival. These are two different philosophical viewpoints. If it's a contest, it's about winning; if it's a festival, it's about taking part and enjoying all the music. Given recent history, maybe Britain should start calling it a festival...?
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Post by ceptimus on Jun 1, 2019 17:20:03 GMT
When people stop talking about which country placed first, second, last, ... - that will be the time when we should stop calling it a competition.
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Post by tangent on Jun 1, 2019 22:19:26 GMT
And when we stop voting for which is the best.
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Post by JoeP on May 18, 2021 19:51:42 GMT
Is anyone watching the current edition? Apart from the usual suspects of course
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Post by Moose on May 18, 2021 23:38:32 GMT
I am sort of disinterested this year. Might watch the finals
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