The United States House of Representatives' Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, announced that there will be a formal impeachment inquiry.
To date, Ms. Pelosi has been against an impeachment inquiry as 'too divisive'. So, this is a big change.
Evidently, the recent news of our bad precedent's meddling in foreign intrigues to besmirch a potential political opponent was the straw. While withholding Congressionally approved foreign aid. So, extortion of a foreign power to drag them in to an attempt to taint a potential political opponent.
Yeah, I'd say that was 'impeachable'.
Now, we shall see if a thorough set of articles of impeachment can be drawn up in a timely fashion. How long will this drag out?
Not likely. Being an inquiry is just that. If evidence is found it will take till the beginning of the year. By the time the next Next steps Happen election process is under way.
Poor sleepy joe will be hurt the most because fact is he and is son have done some shady stuff same as the rest.
I really have not paid much attention to it. I’m more concerned with taxes and economics. If taxes go up I will have to lay off employees so that’s more what I’m worried about. The political chess game isn’t on my radar.
Last Edit: Sept 25, 2019 22:41:47 GMT by kingedmund
Well, here's an overview of the present investigations. Try reading that.
Y'know, eddie, if you "have not paid much attention", then you should probably find out more before spewing your uninformed opinion here and "removing all doubts" as to your venal and entirely willful ignorance and bias. You're disgusting.
Sorry, eddie. You don't pay much attention. You admitted that much right here in this thread, just a couple of posts back. So, you don't know what you are talking about.
And, "Sleepy Joe" is only used by Trump and his brainless MAGAts to refer to Joe Biden, a Democratic contender for the presidency in 2020. It's like my use of "the mango shitgibbon" to refer to our bad precedent in the Oval Orifice, only from a variant political perspective. By using the phrase, eddie has included himself in the cult of dumbshit sTrumpets. He is a MAGAt. In this thread, that means that 'kingedmund' is naught but an apologist for the venal shithead in the White House. Which is why, of course, I find him disgusting.
What are the implications? How likely is it that he WILL be impeached?
The implications are the same as they have always been, only now it is far more likely that implications other than those associated with waiting for election day next year are far more likely.
It is still quite unsure that he will be impeached. There are rumors that even though Ms. Pelosi has relented to an inquiry, she has structured it so as to be more likely to fail.
My question is how long can one drag out the public show of an inquiry?
One thing that all watching from the sidelines need to keep in mind is that 'impeachment' does not equal removal. It merely kicks the process on to the next step, which is trial in the Senate, on the articles submitted by the House impeaching the president, and it is only when the president is convicted by a vote of 67 or more of the 100 senators, will he be removed. Given that Constitutional requirement and the current makeup of the Senate, with a majority (50+) in the president's party, it is unlikely that the necessary 2/3 majority vote to convict could be mustered.
Still, as noted by several commentators, it would leave those who voted for his absolution hanging out to dry in the public view on the eve of a major national election. I would expect the whole voting scene to be wound to an unusual tension.
So...Setting the scene for the coming year...inquiry, complete with chronic temper tantrums on by the big twit, a vote (maybe, if it doesn't all die in committee), followed by a circus on the Senate floor, whereby they either convict the bastard, or a bunch of reprehensible Rethuglicans make it ever so clear that they stand against the US public and for the deceits of the mango shitgibbon. I know I'm gearing up my righteous indignation just for the endgame.
That definitely sounds like your issue. I’ll let you worry about for the both of us. That’s great you have a lot of time on your hands butI must say though, I’ve started to have some fun with you on this. Your kinda like Trump too. I never know what your going to say but your always right you know. Alway. Never wrong on anything, heaven forbid.
Bill Clinton went through the same. Impeachment didn’t mean much then either, other than you have quite a few chess games going on too.
Hanging out to dry, lol, you seem to think people have the time to care in the first place. People really don’t think about politics on a daily basis (not as much as you are led to think) much less listen to the current political chess match that’s been going on since Jesus was born. All they cared about was economy and moving it to a better direction.
Coming year? Let’s see. Again not on most people’s radar. My Realestate club we rarely talk about politics at all, my law group we talk a little bit about it but we laugh at both side’s extremism and how one side wants to push themselves view over the other and visa versa (like they think any of them are right). Not to mention those loud mouthed disrespectful people on TV just sound like there is a 100 for each one out there. In School we really don’t care what Washington is doing and don’t have time to care. My other avenues of people in life rarely care or talk much and when one gets overdone and hateful (desecrate and republican) and stuck on it we typical change the subject.
Sorry your Democrats that you hold so high are just as crooked and bad too. They accept bribes. They do things that would make you shudder but news outlets love to paint their own view and make them into saints and make ones they don’t like into whatever they want to happen. Endgame? There will never be an endgame. This is normal and happens more than you even realize until the day you die. Because you have internet and social media this emboldens people to act the way you do and become hateful.
Yes Joe Biden needed to be called out on what he did too. Oh wait. You’d rather focus on one instead of all.
I’m glad someone is so passionate about their ideas and opinions. Like i said earlier, I rather have enjoyed this with you (wonders never cease). You probably have a lot of frustration and all so it’s probably good that you get it out somewhere I suppose. Talking about it so your frustration is out can be a good thing because I would rather not here a news report of Kelly going crazy and doing something drastic. But don’t ever believe that everything you think is always “right” or some new bible to live by and make others live by. Otherwise...... you will be disappointed sooner or later.
Last Edit: Sept 26, 2019 21:51:15 GMT by kingedmund
No more than any of the others politicians. Do they run my life. No, Do I have time to care. No. I have to many things going on and what they do does not have any bearing on me. So no again. No stress no problem no worry.
Now .... They all are liars. So ones the same as the next. The others have cheated and lied to get what they want. At least he tells you. (If he didn’t I still don’t care) Most of the others try to hide it. You all can buy it. I’m not. Not going to worry about it either.
Sad part is they want you to be like this and be up in arms. It sells to make them money. You all continue to fall for it every time by pushing yourselves against your opposite side who is just as screwed up as your side seems kind of pointless. Look at the news as they get paid to bring you hyped up stuff from things. Higher rating brings more and more. My friend quit journalism school right when they told her that you have to report what we want you to say...... but that’s another whole set of problems right along with the politicians.
I’m going to say it again! As long as the economy is good, business are thriving, and employment is low I’m good. Not going to worry about all the bs out their. The bs is nothing but useless chatter that I don’t need.
Last Edit: Sept 27, 2019 1:56:39 GMT by kingedmund
There are rumors that even though Ms. Pelosi has relented to an inquiry, she has structured it so as to be more likely to fail.
Maybe she's just being shrewd. If Trump is forced to resign, Pence takes over and wins the 2020 election handsomely. If Trump is merely wounded, he carries on as president but is more likely to be defeated at the next election.
I really can't agree with you Brett . Bad things are happening. Children are being taken from their parents. The LBGTQ community - YOUR community - is being repressed and demonised. Trump is blatantly refusing to acknowledge climate change. He is picking fights with other world leaders. People are dying because they do not have access to medical care. Surely that bothers you?
I heard a bird cry, sharp and free. My name is Jordan.
I don't disagree that there are problems on both sides - I do not, for instance, think that the Clintons are perfect. But I think it's a far stretch from that to saying 'they're all as bad as one another.'
I heard a bird cry, sharp and free. My name is Jordan.
I'm definitely not a Clinton supporter. I was not particularly an Obama supporter, but he was of the party of the Bush opponents and that was an improvement.
My experience is that many politicians misrepresent the truth. Sometimes with cause, others in ignorance, but usually with some kind of guiding principle of leadership.
What we have now is an abomination of that. It is nepotism and crony corruption gone in to hyperdrive. The swamp has never been drained, they just brought in bigger and more despicable monsters to populate it. This administration has made corruption commonplace. And open. And in complete opposition to the interests of the People.
Remember, this nation's Congress impeached a president for hiding a blow job. They did not convict him, but, none the less...We are very far, light years, past such.
I find myself fervently wishing that we had a system of justice which would assure that this abomination will die in prison.
With the mango shitgibbon's Kurdish decision, he has managed to alienate a fair number of his own party.
Also, I just rechecked the constitutional requirements of the Senate portion of proceedings once the House has presented the articles of impeachment. The language states, "Conviction in the Senate requires a two-thirds supermajority vote of those present". (My bold.)
Alienated Republicans could well change the quorum just by not showing up at the vote. And still not register a vote against the president, nor the party.