We have only been able to buy small amounts of extra food since we don't have a car. Desinfectants seem to be unavailable in the entire city, cheap pasta and rice were mostly gone. And now there is a case in Bremen and some people in quarantine since they were in contact with that person.
Disinfectants are probably useless against the virus because they only work against bacteria. If you want a disinfectant, you need hospital quality hand santiser gel at 40€ a bottle, containing 60 to 90% alcohol. Shame about the pasta and rice.
Not sure. It doesn't say much on one of my hand disinfectant bottles, but the other has various standardisation classifications, including "EN 14476" which should be good enough to handle the norovirus. I tried to look at more of them in the shops, but as elsewhere they and the wipes are sold out.
The first case in Wales was from Swansea, the city where my husband works. I worry because as a 1:1 support tutor he’s always in very close proximity to students, mostly in small, windowless rooms with recirculated air.
We went shopping yesterday but probably have enough for at least two weeks, as long as we don’t mind pasta and rice most days 😁
Shops here are all out of hand sanitizer, although we bought a few bottles already.
Here hand sanitizers of at least 60% alcohol are being recommended. Soap and water are fine, as long as one washes thoroughly. We're talking suds and scrub, not 'dip'n'flip' on the run. Because of a skin condition, I have used Hibiclens, the cleanser which surgeons scrub up with before surgery, and have it on the counter at both bathroom sinks in pump bottles.
There is a confirmed Corvid-19 death in the state across the river, Washington.
How much help does quarantine actually give though? I mean, if you self isolate for fourteen days and THEN go out again and the virus is still around, aren't you just as likely to get it?
Quarantine does reduce the number of interactions which might transmit the virus. I am also hearing the there is a relatively long latency period before symptoms appear. I do not know whether it can be transmitted in the absence of obvious symptoms.
And, an identified infection victim in town reported today. An entire middle school in a major (upscale) suburb exposed by an infected staff member.
My interactions with others are quite limited. Still, I must shop and I do have a few friends. They would avoid contact if they are ill, but they might be contagious without knowing it. C'set le vie.
March will be the month of introversion. Go fly a kite and meditate upon the fragility of life, alone.
In Germany they put anyone in quarantine who is known to have been exposed to the virus. It's to protect other people, not the person itself. And apparently, some of the people who have been infected or put in quarantine are being harassed on social networks. I heard about a woman who had been to Venice in February. Venice hasn't been affected so far, yet the people from he choir didn't want her to sing and later eat with them for their big anniversary just because she had been to Italy.
"Date: February 26, 2020 at 2:35:50 PM EST Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic
Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.
The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.
Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:
1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!
What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:
1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.
2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.
3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.
4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.
I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.
I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! Jim
James Robb, MD FCAP"
I noted stock up measure #4. I have not seen this recommendation in a number of years....zinc lozenges.
😂. I’m not Martha Stewart. 🤣 If you only knew how much I already had ....enough to last 5 plus years. I buy on sale quadruple, or more, what a normal person does (hence three freezers to make dishes to freeze). Like I said. I started a while before. In fact I typically was prepared years ago. I’ve always kept a “bug out bag” handy most my life if that tells you anything.
A Facebook friend who lives 100m away says she has coronavirus symptoms She is elderly, doesn't get out much except to church but has family who visit her. It is, of course, more likely she has ordinary flu.
ETA: False alarm, she doesn't have symptoms, none at all. Her mind was playing tricks.
Um...But for the temperature, I experience the symptoms described of the coronovirus on a daily basis. But, I have been for years and know that they are induced by my blood pressure medications. Fatigue, persistent dry cough, muscle aches and pains.
Does she live alone, or communally? If the former, I'd bet it is something other. If it is the latter, then, it's most likely it is something else, but has the increasing probability that she may, indeed, have self-diagnosed correctly. But, by some of the community-acquired cases here, nobody knows where the virus came from. The multiple deaths in Seattle, are, I understand, associated with one retirement home, where there were congregated elders who were exposed.
She lives alone with her husband so he could have been the source except that he doesn't have the symptoms (or at least she hasn't mentioned him having any). It's most likely she contracted the disease from someone at church, I think, because she's confined to a motorised scooter and doesn't get out much. I still think it's ordinary flu but I've informed our vicar. I use the word 'flu' loosely
ETA: False alarm, she doesn't have symptoms, none at all. Her mind was playing tricks.
Aldi is offering hand sanitizers and desinfectants tomorrow. Should be fun. People have been stealing that stuff from hospitals. I'm getting a little sick of the apocalyptic mood in the media. 10 days ago they all told people to make sure they had lots of food at home and once people had started buying like crazy, suddenly they said it wasn't necessary.
And it seems like the item everyone all over the world want most is toilet paper. And hand sanitizer. It's getting a bit too crazy.