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Covid-19
Mar 18, 2020 23:45:59 GMT
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Post by juju on Mar 18, 2020 23:45:59 GMT
I've just been to the local hospital for an MRI scan - my doc found something suspicious. You ok, Steve? 😟
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 19, 2020 0:41:56 GMT
I've just been to the local hospital for an MRI scan - my doc found something suspicious. You ok, Steve? 😟 Beware. General purpose scans, like MRI or CT scans, can throw light on a lot of 'anomalies' which, prior to the scan, were not generating symptoms. This has become something of a problem here in the US, where profit drives health care service. I hope that whatever is 'suspicious' turns out to be 'benign'.
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Post by kingedmund on Mar 19, 2020 0:51:01 GMT
We simply can't afford to have groceries delivered. Well...I'm finding that I have plenty of nearby neighbors who are at far less risk than I and are willing to run such errands. A core of neighbors has come together to help each other out, at a social distance. I'm linked in via my FB Messenger account. Me? I happen to have a plentiful supply of latex gloves, for those who wish to venture out in to the grubby aisles of the supermarket in search of my food. I am glad to hear that you have someone that can help. I’ve been wondering about all of you to be honest. Steve we could use some good news.
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Post by tangent on Mar 19, 2020 10:45:22 GMT
I don't know, I'll let you know. Surgery is necessary at some point, which doesn't bother me, but my doc thinks it would be better to know what the situation is sooner rather than later. I'm actually more concerned about catching Covid-19 which has far more risks.
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Covid-19
Mar 19, 2020 17:52:26 GMT
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Post by Elis on Mar 19, 2020 17:52:26 GMT
I can understand that, Steve.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 20, 2020 0:00:03 GMT
My daughter, living in London, said that in the house she lives in, there were 25 willing helpers but only one old person who needed help.
She was in the grocery shop when calling me. No yoghurt but Skyr. No fresh fruit and no frozen one either. No bread. She said she had to buy not what she wanted but what was at hand.
I ordered home delivery. I got everything I ordered except for toilet paper.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 20, 2020 0:08:23 GMT
The reason to be afraid in Sweden is that we have so few intensive care beds. Number of beds/places per 100 000 inhabitants:
Germany 29,2 Belgium 15,9 Italy 12,5 France 11,5 Spain 9,7 Norway 8,0 Great Britain 6,6 Netherlands 6,4 Finland 6,1
and in Sweden we have measly 5,8. It is obviously safest to live in Germany.
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Post by Moose on Mar 20, 2020 2:27:42 GMT
We have an Iceland delivery scheduled tomorrow which we put in the other day. Delivery is free. But interesting to see how much of it turns up tho
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Covid-19
Mar 20, 2020 6:47:31 GMT
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Post by Elis on Mar 20, 2020 6:47:31 GMT
Delivery is free? That's incredible. Rewe does a delivery here, but it's not free. And at the moment, from what I've heard, they take over a week.
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Post by Elis on Mar 20, 2020 9:55:15 GMT
Police had to be called to a supermarket yesterday because a woman freaked out about not being allowed to buy more than one bag of toilet paper. And 60 bottles of disinfectant were stolen from the children's hospital yesterday. People suck!
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Post by JoeP on Mar 20, 2020 10:58:45 GMT
Plenty of shops that offer delivery in the UK have a basic charge but make it free if you order more than a certain amount, or get delivery at a less busy time, etc.
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Post by JoeP on Mar 20, 2020 11:05:34 GMT
She was in the grocery shop when calling me. No yoghurt but Skyr. No fresh fruit and no frozen one either. No bread. She said she had to buy not what she wanted but what was at hand. I ordered home delivery. I got everything I ordered except for toilet paper. I like Skyr. Still no chance at home delivery in my area; no shops have any toilet paper and also have lots of other empty shelves. But milk, yoghurt, bread, most vegetables all good.
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Post by tangent on Mar 20, 2020 11:19:29 GMT
It is obviously safest to live in Germany. Germany has had only 20 deaths from Covid-19 out of more than 11000 confirmed cases. That's a fatality rate of 0.18%, only a little more than ordinary flu. They must be doing something right.
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Post by Elis on Mar 20, 2020 12:26:10 GMT
Plenty of shops that offer delivery in the UK have a basic charge but make it free if you order more than a certain amount, or get delivery at a less busy time, etc. The first might be the case here as well. Unfortunately, we usually don't get that much from Rewe, but buy more from Aldi for financial reasons. It would get a little too expensive for us if we did all our shopping at Rewe.
I also have to admit that I'm still glad to get out of the house very now and then, even if it is just for grocery shopping. I can't really exercise here and when I go out for walks, I take Malcolm with me and so I have to walk very slowly. I try to do a little bit of light muscle training, but I am restricted to things that don't make any noise since I would disturb the neighbours if I started doing jumping jacks or something like that.
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Covid-19
Mar 21, 2020 8:37:45 GMT
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Post by Elis on Mar 21, 2020 8:37:45 GMT
Just feel like I should explain that because I almost feel guilty for leaving the house at all. In Germany, even virologists recommended going out for fresh air, but making sure to keep a distance from other people. We are doing that and in the park where I take Malcolm, most people seemed to be doing that.
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Post by Kye on Mar 21, 2020 10:27:28 GMT
Yeah, here too. I've never seen so many dog walkers! Everyone's dog must be so happy.
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Mar 21, 2020 10:53:30 GMT
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Post by Elis on Mar 21, 2020 10:53:30 GMT
Yeah, here too. I've never seen so many dog walkers! Everyone's dog must be so happy. What annoyed me was that we kept Malcolm from going towards the playground which is officially forbidden now, but then other parents let their children play there.
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Post by Kye on Mar 21, 2020 11:29:34 GMT
I hope those other parents don't mind their children getting sick...
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Post by tangent on Mar 21, 2020 11:37:23 GMT
What annoyed me was that we kept Malcolm from going towards the playground which is officially forbidden now, but then other parents let their children play there. That's a bit grim, children need to play. I guess you could sneak in there when there's no one else around. A friend did some shopping for us and we met, keeping our distance, in a nearby car park. We got milk and a chicken but no washing up liquid. Fortunately, I've been hoarding a spare bottle of washing up liquid at church for the past two years in case the administrator forgets to order some more, so we can use that. Scary figures have been going around about how many people will die but this BBC article points out that 500 000 people die every year in England and Wales. Many of the older people whom the virus kills would have died this year anyway, we just don't know how many. But of course, if we don't implement significant social distancing, they will all die at once and overload the NHS and social care.
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Post by JoeP on Mar 21, 2020 11:46:57 GMT
I hope those other parents don't mind their children getting sick... I hope they don't mind their children becoming asymptomatic carriers and infecting their own parents and anyone else they meet in the next 7 - 14 days.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 21, 2020 13:15:41 GMT
The first Brit to get infected by the corona virus. He came to work as a teacher in English in Wuhan: "Day 1 — Monday November 25: I have a cold. I’m sneezing and my eyes are a bit bleary. It isn’t bad enough to keep me off work. --- I speak Mandarin well, and the job is interesting. My cold shouldn’t be very contagious, so I have no qualms about going to work. And I live alone, so I’m not likely to give it to anyone. There hasn’t been anything in the news here about viruses. I have no cause for concern. It’s just a sniffle. --- Day 5: I’m over my cold. It really wasn’t anything. Day 7: I spoke too soon. I feel dreadful. This is no longer just a cold. I ache all over, my head is thumping, my eyes are burning, my throat is constricted. The cold has travelled down to my chest and I have a hacking cough. This is flu, and it’s going to take more than a mug of hot honey, with or without the magic whisky ingredient, to make me feel better. The symptoms hit me this afternoon like a train and, unless there’s an overnight miracle, I will not be going to work tomorrow. It’s not just that I feel so ill — I really don’t want to give this flu to any of my colleagues. Day 8: I won’t be in work today. I’ve warned them I’ll probably be off all week. Even my bones are aching. It’s hard to imagine I’m going to get over this soon. Even getting out of bed hurts. I am propped up on pillows, watching TV and trying not to cough too much because it is painful. --- Day 12: I’ve had a relapse. Just as I thought the flu was getting better, it has come back with a vengeance. My breathing is laboured. Just getting up and going to the bathroom leaves me panting and exhausted. I’m sweating, burning up, dizzy and shivering. The television is on but I can’t make sense of it. This is a nightmare. By the afternoon, I feel like I am suffocating. I have never been this ill in my life. I can’t take more than sips of air and, when I breathe out, my lungs sound like a paper bag being crumpled up. This isn’t right. I need to see a doctor. But if I call the emergency services, I’ll have to pay for the ambulance call-out myself. That’s going to cost a fortune. I’m ill, but I don’t think I’m dying — am I? Surely I can survive a taxi journey. --- As soon as I get there, a doctor diagnoses pneumonia. So that’s why my lungs are making that noise. I am sent for a battery of tests lasting six hours. Day 13: I arrived back at my apartment late yesterday evening. The doctor prescribed antibiotics for the pneumonia but I’m reluctant to take them — I’m worried that my body will become resistant to the drugs and, if I ever get really ill and need them, they won’t work. I prefer to beat this with traditional remedies if I can. It helps, simply knowing that this is pneumonia. I’m only 25 and generally healthy: I tell myself there’s no reason for alarm. I have some Tiger Balm. It’s like Vick’s vapour rub on steroids. I pour some into a bowl of hot water and sit with a towel over my head, inhaling the fumes. I’m going ‘old school’. --- Day 22: I was hoping to be back at work today but no such luck. The pneumonia has gone — but now I ache as if I’ve been run over by a steamroller. My sinuses are agony, and my eardrums feel ready to pop. I know I shouldn’t but I’m massaging my inner ear with cotton buds, trying to take the pain away. Day 24: Hallelujah! I think I’m better. Who knew flu could be as horrible as that, though?" www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8075633/First-British-victim-25-describes-coronavirus.htmlHe was lucky to survive, living alone with no one to help him. If he had been 60+ years old, he would probably have died. It starts like a cold and could end with pneumonia (and suffocation, unless you get intensive care). I think it was stupid of him, not taking the antibiotics. On the other hand, antibiotics do not help against covid-19.
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Post by Elis on Mar 21, 2020 16:21:21 GMT
Malcolm and I ran into a family we are friends with in the park today, so we stopped and chatted a bit - while keeping a distance of 2.5 to 3 metres. I'm glad our friends seem to be sensible.
Almost everyone in the park seemed to be sensible. I think the biggest "group" I saw was three people and there weren't even children at the playground today.
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 21, 2020 17:59:23 GMT
There is a great image going around about the neighbors getting together for social distancing beers. About eight guys standing in a huge circle in the middle of a suburban cul de sac, each with a beer, but carefully standing at least six feet apart.
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Covid-19
Mar 21, 2020 20:54:19 GMT
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Post by juju on Mar 21, 2020 20:54:19 GMT
I went to a garden centre today - I needed some compost as a friend had given me a load of seeds and I figured it would be good to get gardening. It’s an outdoor place so I figured it would be ok. However the guy insisted on carrying the compost to my car as it was heavy. Because my boot (trunk) is broken he had to lean into the car and put it on the back seat. I was cross because all this time my husband was actually in the car (on his phone 🙄 ) so the guy got up close to him for a few seconds (although the door was open so plenty of fresh air).
On Thursday I had to have an emergency optician appointment as there was a potential problem with my retina. I didn’t want to go (but nor did I want to risk my sight) but spent the whole appointment feeling anxious about someone being so close.
This is so horrible, isn’t it?
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Post by Kye on Mar 21, 2020 21:02:07 GMT
It really is. We've had to cancel church services so I find myself worrying a lot about my parishioners. We do have a phone chain, but it's not the same.
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Post by JoeP on Mar 21, 2020 23:28:17 GMT
The garden centre thing should have been avoidable. The guy "helping" sounds like the kind of person who doesn't take distancing seriously, or actually doesn't understand it. And surely garden centres all have big trolleys that they could have given you?
But the situation with opticians is probably fine. I bet they washed carefully and properly before each patient.
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Post by Moose on Mar 21, 2020 23:52:52 GMT
We went to Aldi and Home Bargains earlier. Plenty of everything available, even loo roll.
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Post by tangent on Mar 22, 2020 0:02:35 GMT
Excellent
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 22, 2020 1:12:17 GMT
I haven't been to any marketing for more than a week, now.
I contacted the nearby garden outlet, Naomi's, and asked about rhubarb crowns. They have a protocol whereby they determine whether they can or cannot fill your bill from your email. If so, they call you on the phone to obtain payment information. Then, you negotiate a pickup time and contact them with an onsite call from your mobile with an auto description. You do not get out of the car and access to your stowage must be unimpeded. They want no exchanges with staff and customers. If they have rhubarb, I will also purchase four more large bags of compost, because that all works for me.
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Post by Moose on Mar 22, 2020 4:29:32 GMT
Is Amazon Pantry available to you? (no am not offering cos I can't use that within the US, alas, or I would offer)
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