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Post by spaceflower on Mar 7, 2020 18:54:54 GMT
But I don't think anything is as good as John Lundvik and his contribution. Will Sweden even make it to the final?
This song I like for the text but I don't think the melody has winning potential:
What's wrong with boys that We can't admit It's okay to talk, you Don't need your fists It's alright to feel things But that's something we don't permit, yeah If you need a hug, then I'll give you it
[Pre-Chorus] When we're young, they say to keep it all inside, all inside When the boys are blowing up, we wonder why Yeah, we wonder, yeah, we wonder why
[Chorus] Boys with emotions Trying not to show it Leave it unspoken We're all a little bit broken Boys with emotions Trying not to show it Keeping it in, don't wanna admit We're all boys with emotions
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 7, 2020 18:57:12 GMT
This is my personal favourite Anna Bergendahl with Kingdom come, but I don't think it will stick out:
PS. The ESC is BIG in Scandinavia and most of all in Sweden. We have hade five competitions and tonight is the final.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 7, 2020 19:03:50 GMT
Victor Crone competed for Estonia last year but this year he's trying for Sweden:
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Post by tangent on Mar 7, 2020 19:09:29 GMT
Do you think there will be an ESC this year? Many events involving large numbers are being cancelled.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 7, 2020 21:01:26 GMT
Will not this corona virus have reached its top by then?
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Post by tangent on Mar 7, 2020 23:42:17 GMT
I don't know. There is talk of cancelling the Olympics in Japan at the end of July. If the number of coronavirus cases in Sweden takes the same path as China, your numbers will peak on 19 March with 400 cases. With this assumption, the number of cases being treated will have reduced back to today's level by 7 April. But China has only managed to reduce coronavirus cases under treatment by imposing severe travel restrictions. Holding ESC could undo all of that especially since it would allow visitors from countries that have not been as successful as Sweden in holding back the disease. At its peak, Sweden will probably have about 400 cases. But there will still be another 10 million people it could infect. This virus isn't going anywhere. Of course, ESC could be held without any visitors from other countries, apart from the performing artists and their backup technicians. So I really don't know what will happen. The Metro (British newspaper) has doubts about it being held, see this article.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 0:23:16 GMT
How sad if it would be cancelled.
The Swedish final had a happy audience. We now have 102 infected but nobody has died yet. Those infected have mostly been to northern Italy on ski holidays. People who suspect they have been infected are told to go to special places for tests (tents). If they are not very ill, they are told to stay at home. Those who have problems with breathing are taken to hospital.
One of the favourites was Hanna with Brave:
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 0:27:20 GMT
Many refugees from South America (USA supported the dictators and Sweden received many refugees). So this contribution is a mix of English and Spanish:
Vamos amigos
A happy merry song but no winning potential.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 0:32:40 GMT
Anis Don Demina has a father who fled from Iraq. He sings in Swedish, a kind of hip-hop.
Also a happy song but not really an ESC winner.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 0:36:19 GMT
An ESC without audience? This would be really flat. I think the artists also perform better when they hear the response from the audience.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 0:38:36 GMT
This one many anticipated to win, Dotter (means "daughter") with Bulletproof:
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 0:42:53 GMT
In order to increase the chances, there is an international jury voting. Two contributions got the same points by the jury. One was Bulletproof. But it was the other one who won with 1 point after the Swedish people's votes were counted, Move with The Mamas:
The Mamas were the choir behind John Lundvik last year. Five years with Swedish men but at last not only one woman, but three women.
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2020 8:17:57 GMT
I mistakenly thought the European Song Contest was being held in Sweden, whereas it is being held in the Netherlands. What I said about Covid-19 in Sweden applies to the Netherlands instead.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 8, 2020 22:24:40 GMT
Yesterday the selection competition was held in Stockholm with audience. The same evening the Danish competition was held - without audience b/c of covid-19. But music without an visible audience must be a flat story. I really hope this will not happen in Rotterdam.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 18, 2020 18:27:56 GMT
Ah, the ESC 2020 is cancelled!
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Post by tangent on Mar 18, 2020 19:16:16 GMT
*refers to first of my posts above*
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Post by Mari on Mar 26, 2020 8:27:11 GMT
It's technically postponed. More financial stress over it. Why oh why did we have to win last year? Stupid moneypit.
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Post by JoeP on Mar 26, 2020 8:54:20 GMT
More financial stress over it. Why oh why did we have to win last year? Stupid moneypit. Are you suggesting that Britain is being smart by appearing to treat it as a joke?
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Post by Mari on Mar 26, 2020 9:16:23 GMT
Yes. Though bad music is never a joke so perhaps we should conclude that you're taking the joke a bit too far...
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Post by tangent on Mar 26, 2020 14:08:57 GMT
I think, too, Brexit has ensured we never win.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 26, 2020 14:39:47 GMT
It's technically postponed. More financial stress over it. Why oh why did we have to win last year? Stupid moneypit. Ireland has arranged the competition 7 times, Sweden 6 times. And many of us would gladly arrange a 7th competition. Hope I don't sound boastful but it is important for our import that Swedish artists, songwriters, music producers etc are well-known abroad. The costs can be seen as investment costs. If the ESC takes place in 2021, will those artists (and songs) who won the local competetions this year compete then? Or will everything start over from scratch? The winning artists may have moved along and be occupied with tours etc.
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Post by Mari on Mar 27, 2020 11:01:40 GMT
A good investment pays off. Economists have long calculated that it turns into a bigger moneypit with every passing year. Promoting your artists abroad is a fake reason: they will never become big international artists and even if they do, the hosting country won't see that money. Other than abba, do you know any of your artists that made it big abroad? And more pointedly: made it big thanks to the esc?
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 1, 2020 1:01:08 GMT
A good investment pays off. Economists have long calculated that it turns into a bigger moneypit with every passing year. Promoting your artists abroad is a fake reason: they will never become big international artists and even if they do, the hosting country won't see that money. Other than abba, do you know any of your artists that made it big abroad? And more pointedly: made it big thanks to the esc? How come I get the feeling that I'm one of the 'abroad'? Breakouts are breakouts. Y'know, like Bjork. Or, Enya. ESC is not required. There are quite a lot of UK artists who've done well 'overseas', but that's never been because they got their big break in ESC. To be frank, I thought it weird, but I can be something of a fuddy duddy about 'competitions'. I hate reality programming for exactly what ESC does.
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Post by Mari on Apr 3, 2020 7:24:54 GMT
Even within the EU they usually don't do well, regardless of whether they were esc winners or not.
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 3, 2020 15:12:19 GMT
Even within the EU they usually don't do well, regardless of whether they were esc winners or not. So...You are telling me that in the EU, the EU artists do not do well? So, Europeans buy and attend concerts preferentially of non-EU musicians? So...How did Kraftwerk do in Europe? Have you ever heard of them? Or, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Queen, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Rammstein, U2, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath....None of them did well in Europe? Maybe your problem is that you ship them all off to the US ASAP? And...If heavy metal is as popular in Finland as I keep hearing, is there an internationally recognized Finnish heavy metal band, or are they all USers and Brits (with the occasional Mongol thrown in).
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Post by JoeP on Apr 3, 2020 18:27:02 GMT
Even within the EU they usually don't do well, regardless of whether they were esc winners or not. So...You are telling me that in the EU, the EU artists do not do well? So, Europeans buy and attend concerts preferentially of non-EU musicians? So...How did Kraftwerk do in Europe? Have you ever heard of them? Or, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Queen, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Rammstein, U2, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath....None of them did well in Europe? Maybe your problem is that you ship them all off to the US ASAP? And...If heavy metal is as popular in Finland as I keep hearing, is there an internationally recognized Finnish heavy metal band, or are they all USers and Brits (with the occasional Mongol thrown in). I was unaware that those bands you listed were ESC winners I think that's what Mari was talking about. They are indeed well known in Europe. As for Finnish metal bands, have you heard of Nightwish? They are huge. Children of Bodom? Stratovarius? Apocalyptica? Amorphis? Insomnium? Moonsorrow? Wintersun?
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 3, 2020 18:50:08 GMT
I was unaware that those bands you listed were ESC winners I think that's what Mari was talking about. They are indeed well known in Europe. As for Finnish metal bands, have you heard of Nightwish? They are huge. Children of Bodom? Stratovarius? Apocalyptica? Amorphis? Insomnium? Moonsorrow? Wintersun? Hmmm...I probably misinterpreted. If she was saying that no ESC competitors, win or not, ever did well in Europe, then, I have no way of discerning. I got the impression that she was widening the reference to no European rock and rollers doing well in Europe, much less anywhere else. If that is wrong, then it is my bad. And, no, I have never heard of a single one of those Finnmetal groups. Were they ESC competitors?
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Post by JoeP on Apr 3, 2020 20:41:34 GMT
They were not - although Lordi, a shock/glam heavy metal band, did win ESC in (checks...) 2006.
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Post by Mari on Apr 5, 2020 11:56:24 GMT
I was talking about the argument that esc is important for bands to get well known internationally. Not about bands becoming well known internationally or not.
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Post by JoeP on Apr 5, 2020 12:21:34 GMT
But you're not saying it's the only route to becoming known internationally? Unless perhaps for pop bands in smaller countries?
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