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Post by Moose on Apr 9, 2020 0:40:26 GMT
As most of you probably know, our Prime Minster Boris Johnson is currently in hospital - intensive care no less - suffering from Coronavirus. This is such a strange, strange time to be living in.
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Post by JoeP on Apr 9, 2020 12:17:04 GMT
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Post by juju on Apr 9, 2020 15:47:54 GMT
There’s something a bit fishy I think - Schrödinger’s Boris? According to the media he’s in Intensive Care but he’s sitting up and doing ok. As a nurse friend pointed out - if you are in ICU you are *not* sitting up and doing OK. If you were, you’d be moved to a different ward - ICU is for people who must definitely cannot sit up and chat to people.
So either he’s unnecessarily taking up an ICU bed or he’s sicker than they are letting on.
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Post by tangent on Apr 9, 2020 16:10:03 GMT
Downing Street says it is a precaution, on the recommendation of his doctors, should he need more complex care, BBC article.
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Post by JoeP on Apr 9, 2020 16:14:01 GMT
Or both. He's sicker than they're letting on, but not actually ICU sick.
In other news, I have received my Boris letter (https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-29/boris-johnsons-letter-to-the-uk-in-full/) I feel like it's probably laden with viruses
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Post by JoeP on Apr 9, 2020 16:15:03 GMT
Downing Street says it is a precaution, on the recommendation of his doctors, should he need more complex care, BBC article. It's such a relief that the NHS is well funded and can afford to do this for everyone.
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Post by tangent on Apr 9, 2020 17:01:22 GMT
Hm, yes.
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Post by spaceflower on Apr 11, 2020 1:49:30 GMT
I'm not familiar with the NHS but me suspects sarcasm here.
Anyway, BJ is better and the British people and can draw a sigh of relief.
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Post by tangent on Apr 11, 2020 2:29:16 GMT
I'm not familiar with the NHS but me suspects sarcasm here. You are correct. In 2013, the NHS was streets ahead of all other health services in Europe in terms of quality and timeliness, according to an American monitoring organisation. But funding has been cut so much since then that it was struggling painfully even before the coronavirus crisis.
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Post by Moose on Apr 11, 2020 3:56:31 GMT
I didn't get my Boris letter. What did everyone else get a Boris letter?
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Post by JoeP on Apr 11, 2020 10:14:52 GMT
I bet they weren't all posted on the same day.
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Post by tangent on Apr 11, 2020 13:15:52 GMT
He knows you don't need one, you never go out
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Post by JoeP on Apr 11, 2020 14:14:47 GMT
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 11, 2020 20:03:43 GMT
So...Wait...The 'Boris Letter' is to warn those who are going out?
To prevent one from unwittingly bumping in to the virus-infested Prime Miniseries? "If you're not going out, then you're not likely to bump in to him, now, are you?"
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Post by tangent on Apr 11, 2020 20:51:09 GMT
From: 10 Downing Street, London SW1A 2AA
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 11, 2020 22:59:48 GMT
"From the start, we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time. We will not hesitate to go further if that is what the scientific and medical advice tells us we must do."
Wait..."From the start"? Wasn't there a 'gut it out and build herd immunity' policy that got jettisoned when folks found it was a 'let the poor sods die off' policy?
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Post by tangent on Apr 11, 2020 23:22:37 GMT
"... we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time"
Yes, it depends on what right measures were being sought. Were they economic prosperity or saving lives? It seems likely economic priority took priority but that is my reading into it.
Dominic Cummings, the Prime Minister's chief adviser, is reported to have said, "... if that means some pensioners die, too bad," but of course he has since denied that.
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Post by Moose on Apr 13, 2020 0:00:27 GMT
I wouldn't have actually read it but it would be nice to have got one.
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Post by tangent on Apr 13, 2020 1:15:46 GMT
At the same time as Johnson's letter, we received two copies of a letter from Stockport NHS, addressed to The Occupier. Why two copies? Delivery agents are paid to deliver so many letters and if they post two at once, it only takes them half the time. That could be why you didn't get one.
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Post by JoeP on Apr 13, 2020 11:16:40 GMT
Maybe they suspected there were two Occupiers.
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Post by tangent on Apr 13, 2020 12:44:48 GMT
We only got one letter from Boris.
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 13, 2020 17:16:31 GMT
As far as unprecedented, I wish we were. Or had. Unpresidented, that is.
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Post by juju on Apr 13, 2020 23:49:59 GMT
I confess to being slightly sceptical about Boris’ brush with corona. He states it ‘could have gone either way’ while in intensive care a few days ago, yet now he’s well enough to make long speeches without coughing and is off to stay at his second home for a rest with his girlfriend (we’d all be fined if we tried that). I’m not suggesting he didn’t have the virus. I’m just a bit puzzled - he was apparently simultaneously running affairs from intensive care, and at also deaths door. That, and the rhetoric (his dad described how he nearly ‘took one for the team’ ), and all the clapping and cheering has turned him into a hero for getting the virus. But this was almost certainly due to his cavalier attitude, and may have encouraged others to take it lightly. Don’t get me wrong - I wouldn’t wish it on anyone and I’m jolly glad Boris is OK. Just finding all the media hype rallying behind Boris has deflected from the fact we have the fastest rising figures in Europe.
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 14, 2020 14:47:23 GMT
Yes...I suspect that it may have been a political stunt to blunt the criticism of his initial policy plan to 'gut it out'. When it became obvious that such an initiative would decimate the population of the UK, particularly those in the elder ranks and the fragile, and was tres insensitive, it became necessary to counter that insensitivity....I'm betting that they decided that if Boorish suffered, he'd be far more 'sympathetic' in the eyes of the constituents. That way, they can slip in to their 'Plan B' and divert the negative attention from their initially shitty policy.
I'd be curious as to whether he would test positive for the antibody. I suspect that it ain't there.
Watch what he does in public post release. Since he's 'had the virus' and recovered, he should be good to go to get out there on the hustings, pressing the flesh and pumping handshakes. If he hangs back and obvious attempts are made to keep him at a distance from potentially infected sources....well, then, he hasn't developed resistance, meaning he probably did not actually have the infection and his stay in the ICU was staged political theater.
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Post by Kye on Apr 14, 2020 15:34:45 GMT
He looked pretty sick and scared in the days leading up to his hospitalization.
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Post by tangent on Apr 14, 2020 16:42:56 GMT
He did indeed look quite ill in the early stages. I hardly think he could pretend to be ill and pull the wool over the eyes of the experts who treated him. We know that he only entered intensive care as a precaution but if he pretended to need oxygen when it wasn't necessary, I think there would be at least one or two health workers who would have a quiet word with the Sun. I'd be curious as to whether he would test positive for the antibody. I suspect that it ain't there. There are no reliable antibody tests as yet.
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Post by Moose on Apr 15, 2020 16:58:28 GMT
I don't like the guy but he did look quite sick when he was on the steps of Downing Street ..
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