|
Post by tangent on Nov 3, 2020 20:50:23 GMT
True enough --but there are also a LOT of guns in that country. Yes, it's quite exciting
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Nov 4, 2020 17:52:23 GMT
Unexpectedly, in the midst of my morning angst attack I had a Canuck intervention. I am thankful.
|
|
|
Post by Kye on Nov 4, 2020 19:01:20 GMT
Ready for duty!
|
|
|
Post by tangent on Nov 4, 2020 19:20:03 GMT
Unexpectedly, in the midst of my morning angst attack I had a Canuck intervention. I am thankful. Yes but in Portland, you don't have very much to worry about, do you? You're on the other side of the coast.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Nov 4, 2020 23:23:22 GMT
Unexpectedly, in the midst of my morning angst attack I had a Canuck intervention. I am thankful. Yes but in Portland, you don't have very much to worry about, do you? You're on the other side of the coast. I'm still in America and I'm still traumatized. I have to worry about my Social Security, my Medicare, my retirement, being able to survive on a fixed income in an inflationary economy. I have a shipload of worries which have been exacerbated by the current administration.
|
|
|
Post by tangent on Nov 4, 2020 23:46:53 GMT
OK, I get that and I sympathise. You stand to lose a great deal if Donald Trump cuts off your social security etc. Over the past couple of years, inflation has been in my favour (low inflation) so that my pension is not affected very much but that could all change dramatically with Brexit. But I wonder if all the Republican bluster could actually change the situation for you very much very quickly.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Nov 5, 2020 1:33:42 GMT
And I consider myself 'comfortable'....I'm not living hand-to-mouth like many, if not most American families. I'm a 'family' of one individual, too.
Then, there are children in cages in the southern border states. Children who have been there for more than a year. Separated from their now lost parents, in many cases.
My government facilitated that. It makes me sick. It makes me angry.
My rage has one inadequate and usually impotent outlet. A vote.
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Nov 5, 2020 1:37:03 GMT
I get your anger Kelly, and I am not even in the US. I want to think that Biden will scrape in but there is still the fact that a fuck of a lot of Americans actually voted for this horrendous, outrageous man ... yeah, you know who I am talking about. I will settle for a Biden win but I can't feel happy about how close it is.
|
|
|
Post by tangent on Nov 5, 2020 1:45:57 GMT
Yes, I completely agree And I consider myself 'comfortable'....I'm not living hand-to-mouth like many, if not most American families. I'm a 'family' of one individual, too. Then, there are children in cages in the southern border states. Children who have been there for more than a year. Separated from their now lost parents, in many cases. My government facilitated that. It makes me sick. It makes me angry. My rage has one inadequate and usually impotent outlet. A vote. I feel that same way when my rage surfaces. .
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Nov 5, 2020 1:47:47 GMT
When my rage surfaces I want to go out and hit stupid people .. genuinely. I never have and hopefully never would but it can be quite tempting.
|
|
|
Post by tangent on Nov 5, 2020 1:49:48 GMT
I suspect that's a common feeling. I used to feel like that but now I'm afraid they will hit back
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Nov 5, 2020 1:52:49 GMT
I've really never been violent Sometimes I think that I should have been though.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 7, 2021 16:01:31 GMT
Yeah....I get sick of my own violent fantasies. I keep getting these irrational desires to mercilessly pummel an ugly orange face with a hickory softball bat.
He is a huge pile of odious toxic excrement. With too damned many heirs. Something needs to be done to assure that they never attempt any kind of 'dynasty'. They must be destroyed.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 7, 2021 16:44:00 GMT
Here's a question which I think applies in the US electoral crisis:
What happens when a congregation finds a pederast in their pulpit?
|
|
|
Post by Kye on Jan 7, 2021 17:19:06 GMT
Of course they should be tried and sent to jail, but this certainly doesn't always happen. Stupid human politics!
|
|
|
Post by tangent on Jan 7, 2021 20:34:04 GMT
Here's a question which I think applies in the US electoral crisis: What happens when a congregation finds a pederast in their pulpit? This has happened in my church, not with a man of the cloth but with an informal youth leader. The congregation only found out when he was convicted, which I think is the right way round to protect the victim. The law courts are far better judges than the misinformed public. The victim doesn't want the angst of being judged by his peers nor having members of the congregation defending the youth leader (as some would surely do). But back in 1959, it was a different story. Word got around that our English teacher was having it off with older boys. The routine was to go round to his first-floor flat, throw stones at his window and shout out his name (Cedric). We didn't find out what happened inside his flat but he was required to leave the school at the end of term. I've often considered what I would have done if I had been invited round to his flat. In those days, it was a music hall joke - the choir got it because they deserved it, sort of thing. Would I have told my parents? Would I have reported it to the police? No, they probably already knew - the headmaster would have told them to protect himself. Was it reported in the local paper? No, they would never print anything like that. The scandal was that nobody wanted a scandal. Anyway, I am curious as to what this has to do with Trump.
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Jan 7, 2021 23:36:38 GMT
I think that the point is, he is clearly unfit for office but no-one has yet done anything about it
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 8, 2021 0:14:57 GMT
Trump IS the predatory pederast priest in the pulpit.
He is hiding behind the office and its authority and influence to commit crimes against the public and the Republic. He is perverting democracy and encouraging others to do the same and to tear it down and trample it underfoot in the process. He has illicitly wrapped himself in the flag and surrounded himself with craven religious hypocrites spouting invective as a smokescreen for his malevolent deeds. He does not believe in the rhetoric he spouts. He uses it to manipulate others.
tanget - I curious as to how your misguided and incredibly gullible American conservatives are spinning the bullshit they see their compatriots perpetrating in Washington. Do they think this perfidy justified? Do they REALLY think that elections have been rigged by the opponents of their precious cult leader? Are they drinking the fucking Kool-Aid? Because, from every thing you've told me about them, I fully expect them to be craven anti-American traitors....following their cult leader, the fascist Dumbshit Donny.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 8, 2021 0:28:06 GMT
And...tangent....I get the impression that you think my political rantings here have been...'pretentious'.
In light of what has transpired in American politics over the past year, and particularly in the the past few days, have my musings upon the American political scene been anywhere near the realities you see portrayed in the media? Trump is a fascist. That is clear. He has made it eminently clear for all to see. Yet, I'd bet you'd still challenge that typification with some milquetoast objection and a fair amount of hand-waving. Trump is a flaming shithead fascist and your 'friends' need to realize that and come to terms with it.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 8, 2021 2:34:57 GMT
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 8, 2021 17:36:17 GMT
The surges of outrage and disbelief, modulated by amusement at the sheer idiocy, is wearing.
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Jan 8, 2021 23:35:12 GMT
He seems to have made a sharp turn about - too late. I am guessing someone has managed to convey to him how serious this is.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 9, 2021 6:02:36 GMT
If they impeach him, it immediately prevents him from pardoning, or being pardoned.
Even if there is no trial in the Senate, he will leave office without so much as a pardon me. Once the new president is sworn in, the former president no longer has those powers.
If convicted, it will remove all post-official stipends and protections. No retirement, no Secret Service. No presidential library. No aircraft carrier. No airport. Infamy forever.
I assume that is what Mitch told him. And, at this point, I suspect even Mitch would vote for it. We'll see...
As I have been saying all along: "Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools contend."
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 9, 2021 6:16:52 GMT
Yes. He is too late and nobody believes him. Go figure.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 9, 2021 6:23:33 GMT
I want him to run. I want him to flee in to self-imposed exile in Baku.
That would save us all the excruciating and no doubt protracted public prosecution for murder and assorted crimes of sedition and insurrection. The bad precedent would, no doubt, get the primary spot of attention for the duration and get to play the victim. Nope....I don't want it. He needs to run. Make it real, Donny. Hide from prosecution in the burned out hulk of a shithotel in an obscure former Soviet colony.
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Jan 9, 2021 23:06:48 GMT
It would also mean that he was not hanging around in the US to be a minor - or perhaps major - level nuisance as a public martyr. His sheep might calm down if they lose their shepherd.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 10, 2021 0:50:50 GMT
Exactly. And, without making him in to some kind of martyr for the same crowd of roaring fuckwad nimwits.
Maybe Ivanka become good Azeri whore! Best whore in Baku!
May the Kurds find his address.
|
|
|
Post by Moose on Jan 10, 2021 1:07:52 GMT
As long as he does not come here. There was a suggestion that he might.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 10, 2021 1:50:47 GMT
Yeah...I heard the rumors of the flight to Aberdeen...Or was it Ayr? One of the golf courses.
That ain't happening.
I don't know if they are going to retain his passport or not, but his situation is looking poor for leaving the country, actually.
|
|
|
Post by whollygoats on Jan 12, 2021 15:06:29 GMT
Where we're at. Synopsis, by Stephen Colbert, as of 1/11.
|
|