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Post by whollygoats on Jan 27, 2022 18:33:47 GMT
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Post by Kye on Jan 27, 2022 20:41:31 GMT
I guess that's true...
Is this guy someone special?
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Post by tangent on Jan 27, 2022 23:05:16 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn, Labour Leader from Sept 2015 to April 2020. Reckoned by many to be the worst Labour Leader in history. Responsible for a massive swing to the Conservatives in 2019, giving them a huge majority in Parliament. Sadly I have been stopped twice in the street by people who thought I looked like him  |
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Post by Moose on Jan 27, 2022 23:15:05 GMT
I rather liked Corbyn. His brother's a nutter though
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 28, 2022 0:10:32 GMT
Yeah, it's Jeremy. I read the synopsis on his wiki page and I still think he was railroaded by pro-Israel fanatics. We have the same shit here; most of it run by AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Zionists. They buy congress-critters and slander their opponents. People just cannot get it through their heads that Palestinians are Semites, too. Corbyn had the temerity to take the side of the Palestinians in Palestine and was consequently smeared by the rabid Israelis.
This just makes me want to say, "Piss on the fuckhead Labourites, buckling under the Tories' lies."
Sad.
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Post by tangent on Jan 28, 2022 7:04:37 GMT
The Palestinian problem was only a small part of why he failed.
Labour voters wanted a fairer society with more money in their pockets. Corbyn came across as someone who could achieve neither. Activists supported his left-wing policies but they were ideals that didn't translate tangibly into what voters wanted. By his lack of actions, he demonstrated that he wasn't going to tackle Jewish hate crime nor did he demonstrate that he could help the Palestinians. He was a do nothing man with all the dynamism and personality of a limp lettuce.
Life-long Labour voters flocked in droves to the Conservative candidates in the 2019 elections.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 28, 2022 13:22:58 GMT
The Palestinian problem was only a small part of why he failed. Labour voters wanted a fairer society with more money in their pockets. Corbyn came across as someone who could achieve neither. Activists supported his left-wing policies but they were ideals that didn't translate tangibly into what voters wanted. By his lack of actions, he demonstrated that he wasn't going to tackle Jewish hate crime nor did he demonstrate that he could help the Palestinians. He was a do nothing man with all the dynamism and personality of a limp lettuce. Life-long Labour voters flocked in droves to the Conservative candidates in the 2019 elections. And those Conservatives accomplished just what those turncoat voters expected, right? **Rolls eyes so hard they nearly fall out.** If your analysis is anywhere near correct, you Brits are just as fucking stupid as American voters. No...worse. |
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Post by tangent on Jan 28, 2022 17:24:10 GMT
And those Conservatives accomplished just what those turncoat voters expected, right? There have been hundreds of MPs who have been turncoats, including Sir Winston Churchill. The most recent was Christian Wakeford, who defected to Labour earlier this month. I would say our democracy depends on such people. When I was young, I despised turncoats and floating voters. And then I realised that if no one changed their voting allegiance, the largest party would remain in power for ever. Indeed, I would say the most valuable voter is the one that doesn't always vote. |
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 28, 2022 19:27:56 GMT
And those Conservatives accomplished just what those turncoat voters expected, right? There have been hundreds of MPs who have been turncoats, including Sir Winston Churchill. The most recent was Christian Wakeford, who defected to Labour earlier this month. I would say our democracy depends on such people. When I was young, I despised turncoats and floating voters. And then I realised that if no one changed their voting allegiance, the largest party would remain in power for ever. Indeed, I would say the most valuable voter is the one that doesn't always vote. And you now have what? A sterling set of governing principles? I don't think the current situation upholds your position at all. Quite the opposite. Maybe you should just party like brainless Boris. I mean, you have had a string of stellar shitheads to 'lead' your country, thanks to the Tories. Yeah, sure, keep returning the robbing shitheads to office and then wonder where it all went wrong. The Labour Party didn't deliver the country to its current dire circumstances, yet you see fit to piss all over them. That, to me, is just willful stupidity. Rank willful stupidity. |
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Post by Moose on Jan 28, 2022 22:53:06 GMT
I disagree with your assessment of Corbyn Steve - I know a lot of people who were very keen on him and think that he could have accomplished a lot, if his own party had no turned on him. I don't see the point of people calling themselves left wingers if, the second an actual left wing leader comes along, they wet themselves and run away.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 29, 2022 4:09:32 GMT
It seems Labour has gone all mush-headed and accommodationist since Corbyn left. Are they trying to make themselves look 'not Leftist'?
We have 'moderates' in the non-Republican party here, too. They are presently represented by Krysten Sinema of Arizona and Joe Manchin of Pennsylvania. POS to the core, both of them. And, of course, our current president was a notable member of that 'moderate' part of the Democratic Party. So, the president's closest party allies are basically kicking him and his policies in the fork by siding with a block of Republican senators. It sounds to me like your current Labour Party is nothing but shithead, do-nothing wastes of protoplasm like Sinema and Manchin.
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