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Post by Moose on Nov 23, 2022 0:53:02 GMT
Anyone watching? And no I am not, though I might if we make the finals. Seems weird to have a World Cup in winter and I don't like the choice of venue either - NOT where I'd have chosen. And, after Bud sponsored the tournament, there was a last minute ban on alcohol in the stadium. This made me laugh quite a lot.
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Post by tangent on Nov 23, 2022 8:09:55 GMT
I had no intention of watching but I found myself in a local pub with people, mostly old men, glued to the large screen. I walked past and commented, "is there a match on?" "No," they all replied, and I went back to my beer. But it intrigued me and I started watching. I actually found it quite enjoyable mainly because there were lots of goals (England won against Iran, 6-2).
I might watch some of the other matches if I find myself in a pub at the time.
I'm certainly not happy about Iran's human rights but I'm being cautious* about it. There are American states that, mostly, don't accept gay rights, there are American states that implement the death penalty, there are American states that, by and large, don't treat women equally. In that case, if we chastise Qatar, why don't we boycott America?
Of course, the UK is blameless and has no faults.
*Cautious does not mean I accept Qatar's position on human rights - I think it's appalling. I am cautious in suggesting the action we should take.
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Post by JoeP on Nov 23, 2022 10:22:47 GMT
This is something to do with football I believe?
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Post by Kye on Nov 23, 2022 11:40:21 GMT
You're talking about soccer games, right?
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Post by tangent on Nov 23, 2022 12:58:58 GMT
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Post by whollygoats on Nov 24, 2022 17:01:17 GMT
Who is the star quarterback for this year's contenders in the World Cup?
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Post by Moose on Nov 25, 2022 2:23:06 GMT
*blinks slightly*
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Post by whollygoats on Nov 25, 2022 21:16:33 GMT
So....Ninety minutes of mind-numbing activity without a score. Uh...whoopee?
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Post by tangent on Nov 25, 2022 21:27:39 GMT
I think they should make the goal posts wider.
"A sensible and diplomatic goalless draw to maintain the 'special relationship'," as one of my Facebook friends put it.
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Post by whollygoats on Nov 26, 2022 1:24:13 GMT
I got the impression (from US media) that the US team 'won' because they've never accomplished even a tie with any European team, ever.
When I heard that insinuation, I shouted out, "And we still haven't! England is NOT part of Europe any more!"
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Post by Moose on Nov 26, 2022 1:59:29 GMT
LOL
I read about the result but didn't watch it. The game against Wales might be interesting but probably still not interesting enough for me to tune in
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Post by tangent on Nov 26, 2022 16:14:54 GMT
I'm watching the scores but not the matches
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Post by tangent on Nov 26, 2022 19:01:35 GMT
I got the impression (from US media) that the US team 'won' because they've never accomplished even a tie with any European team, ever. When I heard that insinuation, I shouted out, "And we still haven't! England is NOT part of Europe any more!" When America talks about Europe in that context, I think they mean the geographical continent. We are still part of Europe in that sense even though we're no longer in the EU. At least 23 countries, such as Norway, Switzerland and Ukraine, are also part of Europe but are not members of the EU. Europe also includes six de facto autonomous countries, such as Transnistria, and eight autonomous dependencies and territories, such as Gibraltar, but I doubt whether any of them will field a team in the World Cup.
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Post by whollygoats on Nov 27, 2022 0:44:17 GMT
I heard that France and Denmark were nagging Ireland about having it towed out to sea and sunk, as it was 'in the way'.
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Post by Moose on Dec 14, 2022 1:29:58 GMT
so we went out to France, as I assumed we would though I did not bother to watch it .
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 14, 2022 2:28:42 GMT
So...It's France versus Morocco to see who meets Argentina in the final.
Any favorites?
I'd must admit, I'd appreciate a Morocco victory more than the other two. I'm visualizing them as the 'underdogs', here.
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Post by Moose on Dec 15, 2022 0:37:38 GMT
We have big issues with Argentina in this country
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Post by ceptimus on Dec 15, 2022 3:45:04 GMT
Always violence from a minority of Moroccan fans whether their side wins or loses. We've had this in cities in England after their previous matches, even though they weren't playing England, and there aren't that many Moroccans here.
I expect it was really bad in French cities overnight - there are many more Moroccans in France, and France just knocked them out of the competition.
The media tend to under-report such violence - maybe they don't want to encourage copycat action, or are concerned they might appear xenophobic.
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 15, 2022 13:49:22 GMT
Um...hooliganism? Being pinned on just the Moroccans? I was under the impression that such behavior was widespread throughout the fandom of the sport. I remember stories of rival British fans packing some rather lethal weapons (chains and tire irons) in their post-game festivities.
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Post by ceptimus on Dec 15, 2022 16:47:57 GMT
Oh yes, we've certainly had more than our fair share of hooligans - though the English hooligans seem to have diminished recently.
As I expected, there was rioting by Moroccans in many French (and Belgian) cities, with rockets fired at the police, and over 120 arrests. A 14-year-old boy was run over and killed during one of the riots in Montpellier. The hatchback car that ran him over was waving a French flag, and reportedly was attempting to escape from a group of Moroccan fans who were chasing it: the car made a hasty U-turn and ploughed into the teenager. The car was found abandoned nearby, and police are investigating...
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 15, 2022 22:39:39 GMT
Yet another reason I steadfastly remain amongst the 'control group' (aka 'the Great Unwashed') when it comes to futbol.
Geez...Argentina versus France. How do you Brits choose?
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Post by Moose on Dec 16, 2022 0:34:41 GMT
France . There's still a lot of bad feeling over the Falklands and also the 'Hand of God' in the 86 World Cup.
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 16, 2022 1:01:36 GMT
Yeah, but....Argentina never threatened to invade the home islands. But then, I've never heard of French authorities dropping dissidents far out to sea from helicopters.
Around here, every time Argentina comes up in conversations, somebody is likely to blurt out, in their best bad German accent, "Chermun? Ve are not Cherman. Ve haf bin Argentinian for generations!"
And, as far as the 'Hand of God'? ....It's FIFA. Don't forget that. That's gotta be the most corrupt sport concern on the face of the planet. I guess if you want to play at all in their show, you gotta play by their rules. And, so far as I can tell, it's the Golden Rule, aka, those with the gold rule.
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Post by Moose on Dec 16, 2022 2:04:50 GMT
Personally I did always wonder why 'we' had possession of an island on the other side of the world, still less why we went to war over it. I still don't know. The Hand of God thing has been proven by video . I dimly remember watching it. I was ten.
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 16, 2022 3:14:22 GMT
Personally I did always wonder why 'we' had possession of an island on the other side of the world, still less why we went to war over it. I still don't know. The Hand of God thing has been proven by video . I dimly remember watching it. I was ten. "Proven by video"? This is FIFA, right? Did FIFA, at that time, have video review in the list of possible remedies to controversial rulings from the field? As for the Falklands, I don't understand their geopolitical importance in the world, now or then. So, yeah...I thought it rather ridiculous. But then, the US invasion of Grenada was much the same.
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Post by Moose on Dec 17, 2022 0:30:26 GMT
I dunno the answer to the first question but I've seen the incident and it's quite obvious. Bit late to do anything about it though
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Post by tangent on Dec 17, 2022 5:59:57 GMT
Did FIFA, at that time, have video review in the list of possible remedies to controversial rulings from the field? Video instant review is a very recent practice and was only formally introduced in 2018. Prior to that date, TV camera recordings would have given commentators an opinion but FIFA would not have taken any notice and their protests would not have affected any decision. "The referee's decision is final" is a strict rule.
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 17, 2022 14:36:32 GMT
Did FIFA, at that time, have video review in the list of possible remedies to controversial rulings from the field? Video instant review is a very recent practice and was only formally introduced in 2018. Prior to that date, TV camera recordings would have given commentators an opinion but FIFA would not have taken any notice and their protests would not have affected any decision. "The referee's decision is final" is a strict rule. Yeah...That's pretty much what I thought. It applies here as well. Or, did until 'instant replay' became available. But such circumstances usually apply only to televised events, where cameras are running on the event at almost all times (and can be utilized in 'instant replay').
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Post by Moose on Dec 18, 2022 0:23:24 GMT
He still did definitely touch the ball
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Post by whollygoats on Dec 18, 2022 4:41:11 GMT
When I first saw the footage, I thought it was a header into the net. If the referee saw it that was, so it was. Tough.
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