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Post by Miisa on Aug 25, 2013 15:38:02 GMT
Wouldn't they just be "Police Constables" (who happen to also be women), though? It really pisses me off that a person's gender would influence their job title these days. I thought we'd be well past that by now.
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Post by Alvamiga on Aug 25, 2013 20:47:40 GMT
Sometimes such things are important. The problems come when it is the wrong things. Imagine a situation where they required a female officer to do a specific job. Would you rather them call over the radio for "A police officer that happens also to be a woman"?
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Post by Miisa on Aug 25, 2013 21:12:28 GMT
What job? Frisking/bodily examining a woman, you mean? Really the only gender-specific task I can imagine. If a female is absolutely necessary, then "a female police officer" is quite appropriate to be called in that instance. There seems to be a habit of casually referring to WPC's (if British TV has taught me anything) to be called in for such things as consoling relatives etc. and that is just bizarre. As if a man can't do that, or that a woman is automatically better? Maybe it is a cultural thing, but I am used to police officers all doing the same work, regardless of gender.
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Post by Alvamiga on Aug 25, 2013 23:25:11 GMT
Yes, but women are better at some tasks. Much as I like men and women to be treated equally, I also like people to accept that there are also important differences.
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Post by Miisa on Aug 26, 2013 4:55:17 GMT
Yes, but women are better at some tasks. What tasks?
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Post by Mari on Aug 26, 2013 6:14:16 GMT
I hope you don't mean like consoling, as Miisa named as an example, because I'm liable to start crying myself instead of helping someone else.
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Post by JoeP on Aug 26, 2013 12:46:13 GMT
Even if there are gender-appropriate roles (which I am not sure about), it doesn't mean that every women would like or be good at a "female" job. Nor that, to take the pat-down example, I would be equally comfortable with all kinds of men doing a pat-down (nor even equally uncomfortable?), nor all women with female gynaecologists nor all men with male proctologists, etc.
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Post by Alvamiga on Aug 26, 2013 14:26:34 GMT
Yes, it also applies that some women are better at some things than some other women.
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Post by tangent on Aug 26, 2013 15:15:12 GMT
Women Police Constables... the nicer kind to look at! Not the ones we have around here
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Post by bill on Aug 27, 2013 16:30:41 GMT
Wait a minute , wait a minute, wait a minute. I thought this thread was about Star Trek? ?
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Post by tangent on Aug 27, 2013 16:45:58 GMT
We digress, therefore we are.
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Post by bill on Aug 27, 2013 16:49:15 GMT
We digress, therefore we are. Hmmm
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Post by bill on Aug 27, 2013 16:56:21 GMT
Meanwhile in another part of the Galaxy, I have just watched Voyager "Nemesis". I have sometimes dismissed this episode but it seems to me quite relevant as it is all about persuading people to go to war on the basis of propaganda and the slimmest of evidence. Syria ?
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Post by Mari on Aug 27, 2013 19:27:08 GMT
Was that the one where someone (Chakotay?) ends up in a trainingscamp that ends up being a brainwash technique?
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Post by bill on Aug 28, 2013 16:17:58 GMT
Was that the one where someone (Chakotay?) ends up in a trainingscamp that ends up being a brainwash technique? That's the one.
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Post by Alvamiga on Aug 28, 2013 17:05:01 GMT
I usually call him "Chocolatay"
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Post by bill on Aug 28, 2013 18:30:20 GMT
I usually call him "Chocolatay" Well you would.
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Post by Mari on Aug 28, 2013 18:36:44 GMT
I liked the episode, but mostly because you get so sucked in the brainwashing yourself.
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Post by Alvamiga on Aug 28, 2013 19:12:41 GMT
I usually call him "Chocolatay" Well you would. Are you implying that I'm the sort of person who would also call the science officer "Threevok"?
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Post by bill on Aug 28, 2013 22:27:27 GMT
Yes that would be logical.
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Post by bill on Sept 2, 2013 9:14:07 GMT
Enjoying our holiday but getting Star Trek withdrawal symptoms.
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Post by Mari on Sept 2, 2013 18:15:53 GMT
Really? How much ST do you watch a day on average then?
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Post by bill on Sept 2, 2013 18:21:23 GMT
Really? How much ST do you watch a day on average then? Average? An hour and a half to two hours. Do you think I should start Trekkies Anonymous?
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Post by Mari on Sept 2, 2013 19:20:31 GMT
That might not be a bad move, but it depends: How many episodes can you recite? How often do you know the exact words before they are even spoken? Do you attempt to imitate things from Star Trek? Important questions, though I'm not an expert of course.
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Post by bill on Sept 2, 2013 19:37:10 GMT
My name is Bill. I am a trekaholic.
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Post by Mari on Sept 3, 2013 5:48:01 GMT
Hahaha, well, that's the first step.
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Post by Alvamiga on Sept 3, 2013 7:54:47 GMT
You can spot the real die-hard trekaholics when they are out in public... by the uniform!
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Post by Miisa on Sept 3, 2013 8:59:15 GMT
I just started watching Enterprise. Like it more than I thought I would.
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Post by bill on Sept 3, 2013 14:56:32 GMT
You can spot the real die-hard trekaholics when they are out in public... by the uniform! I do have a shirt but I only wore it once at a Star Trek party.
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Post by bill on Sept 3, 2013 14:58:44 GMT
I just started watching Enterprise. Like it more than I thought I would. And in my opinion it gets better as it progresses. Some people hate the final season but I like it.
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