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Post by JoeP on Jul 20, 2013 9:38:57 GMT
Ha anyone mentioned the possibility of small bits of food still stuck on the item disguised as a soap bubble? Especially with saucepans and food that's burnt on (not burnt black but you know what I mean). Rinsing allows you to check for this.
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Post by JoeP on Jul 20, 2013 9:42:51 GMT
If the dishes are very dirty, the washing up water becomes slightly dirty. . Which is why you soak them first, so they are basically clean and non-greasy etc. when you do wash them up. But soaking is no good for fatty grease (at least not soaking in water). And even with water-soluble cooking, you're just moving it around. Of course, dried up things need a soak. What I sometimes do with very dirty things is scrub them in a first wash - sometimes in the soaking water, not necessarily with detergent - to get rid of the bulk of the dirt, and then wash properly in soapy water. (And then rinse to get the soap off.) I hardly ever see the point of drying things. A draining rack is fine.
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Post by Mari on Jul 20, 2013 9:48:37 GMT
Depends on what you put in the soaking water. I have detergent that breaks up grease. After taking things out of the soaking water I rinse them with hot water before washing them.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jul 20, 2013 10:16:19 GMT
What is a funny washing up habit? There is a whole section on Dutch dish washing in the book "Undutchables". Essentially they poke a giant tub that barely fits into the sink, into the sink. They fill it up with hot water. They wash all the dishes in it even when the water is disgustingly dirtly. Then they don't do any rinsing so the dishes are still actually dirty plus soapy.
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Post by tangent on Jul 20, 2013 12:35:43 GMT
Which is why you soak them first, so they are basically clean and non-greasy etc. when you do wash them up. Yes, that's why I don't put pots that are very dirty and greasy straight into the washing up bowl. Colin, I used to wash pots that way but the bowl, dish cloth and my hands end up being greasy. If I rinse the greasy pots first, the bowl and dish cloth end up clean.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jul 20, 2013 13:03:17 GMT
I think the only way to be sure they are clean is to wash each dish seperate under running water so you can it all scrubbed with soap and rinse off all the soap and if it turns out you missed a spot you can see it and do it again. No grease, no soap - lovely clean dishes! Or use a dishwasher.
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Post by Kye on Jul 20, 2013 13:49:19 GMT
I'm with RB on that. Showers rather than baths for my dishes!
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Post by JoeP on Jul 20, 2013 14:03:33 GMT
The only real way is buy new dishes for each meal. Or make them, assuming you have a kiln, and whatever is needed for making saucepans.
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Post by tangent on Jul 20, 2013 14:11:45 GMT
I'll go with JoeP.
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Post by jayme on Jul 20, 2013 14:47:54 GMT
Why wash dirty china when you can use Chinet?
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Post by Mari on Jul 20, 2013 14:51:17 GMT
I think the only way to be sure they are clean is to wash each dish seperate under running water so you can it all scrubbed with soap and rinse off all the soap and if it turns out you missed a spot you can see it and do it again. No grease, no soap - lovely clean dishes! Or use a dishwasher. Horribly wasteful though.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jul 20, 2013 15:47:23 GMT
Buying new dishes doesn't solve the problem as you need to clean those before you can use them!
Dishwashers save the most water. In Oz we'll definitely have a dishwasher.
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Post by juju on Jul 20, 2013 22:19:33 GMT
The arrangement in our house is supposed to be that I cook, someone else washes up. In theory this should work great for me because I generally love cooking... but there are often so many arguments / excuses from the washers up that it gets left till the morning. And then I end up doing it. Oh, and I am very particular about it - water has to be hot and bubbly, gets changed after every few things and everything gets rinsed with HOT water, then they dry without towels.
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Post by JoeP on Jul 20, 2013 22:33:42 GMT
Arguments about washing up? Unheard of!
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Post by Shake on Jul 22, 2013 20:00:50 GMT
I hate both, but I'd marginally prefer to cook. Yes, this. Unless by "cleaning up" one would mean, "putting things into the dishwasher."
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Post by Alvamiga on Jul 22, 2013 22:41:58 GMT
Does it count as washing up if all you do is press the start button on the dishwasher?
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Post by JoeP on Jul 23, 2013 7:54:15 GMT
No, because it's a waste of water and electricity to run an empty dishwasher. You have to put in the dirty things - and the powder - and unload them afterwards - into the right cupboards etc. Honestly, it's as though some people expect labour saving devices to save on labour.
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Post by Alvamiga on Jul 23, 2013 8:28:57 GMT
Even if it was empty it'd be saving labour. None of that tedious loading and unloading! I don't do it usually, but my total incompetence in some areas usually results in someone else doing it because it's less grief for them... result!
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Post by tangent on Jul 23, 2013 12:30:12 GMT
When your wife asks you to do a job, the golden rule is to do it so badly that she doesn't ask you to do it again
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Post by JoeP on Jul 23, 2013 12:58:29 GMT
Ssh!
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Post by Miisa on Jul 23, 2013 13:05:12 GMT
Nah, that just means you need extra practise.
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Post by JoeP on Jul 23, 2013 13:08:21 GMT
Has that ever worked, Miisa?
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Post by Miisa on Jul 23, 2013 13:10:09 GMT
It never got done at all if I asked. Hmph.
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Post by tangent on Jul 23, 2013 13:14:04 GMT
Quite annoying I expect. My friend John attempted to change his first-born daughter's nappy with a towel and put gripe water in her bottle. From then on mum always looked after the baby.
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Post by Kye on Jul 23, 2013 14:14:23 GMT
I always told my kids that practice makes perfect when they tried to pull that passive aggressive stuff on me. Worked, too.
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Post by tangent on Jul 23, 2013 14:52:22 GMT
A lot of men have taken that advice to the bedroom.
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Post by Kye on Jul 23, 2013 15:25:18 GMT
It's always good to keep it real.
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Post by Moose on Jul 23, 2013 17:36:47 GMT
You don't think that just maybe your friend John did that deliberately Steve?
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Post by JoeP on Jul 23, 2013 19:08:24 GMT
Again, shh!
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Post by tangent on Jul 23, 2013 20:05:59 GMT
What's that noise from behind the sofa? You don't think that just maybe your friend John did that deliberately Steve? I'm not sure. I can understand the towel for a nappy but the gripe water? You don't take risks with your firstborn. In any case, John's wife was very maternal and probably didn't want John to be able to look after their daughter. In those days, women were very protective of their roles.
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