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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 6, 2013 9:16:24 GMT
That's how I figure most Aussies will pronounce it. And the Slovaks, which is good, because if they pronounce it correctly it actually is a swear word in that language.
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Post by Kye on Sept 6, 2013 11:30:14 GMT
I always think of it as de gooey.
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Post by DGoeij on Sept 8, 2013 20:22:07 GMT
That's ME! I think you should just go with the 'DG', rather than add in all those vowels. It just ocnfuses the easily confused. Like me. What is it's approximate English pronunciation? That 'DGoeij'? I've been pronouncing it much like "Da Goy"...or, in a slang lexicon, a 'non-Jew'. Plenty of Hebrew (Jiddisch?) in Amsterdam slang as such. Gozer, mesjogge, kassiewijle, penoze. But a Dutchie would pronounce phonetically... well DayChooy. Day as in the normal word, Ch as ch in Bach (the composer, properly pronounced in German btw), oo as in cool and y as the one in you. If that makes any sense to the non-Dutch speakers amongst us.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 8, 2013 21:30:08 GMT
Um...there is no 'y'; you mean the 'j', or the 'ij', or the 'eij'? Is the 'j' = 'y'?
So, the latter portion is rather like somebody clearing their throat in English? Ya, Yiddish has dat, too.
And, is the 'ei' is silent entirely?
See what I mean about all those vowels? It seems even you are cornfoozed.
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Post by JoeP on Sept 8, 2013 22:22:58 GMT
wg ... read DG's post more closely ... the y is there: ... DayChooy. Day as in the normal word, Ch as ch in Bach (the composer, properly pronounced in German btw), oo as in cool and y as the one in you. I've been thinking of it as Afrikaans, which I suspect differs from Dutch in have an (even) more guttural g, and 'ij' pronounced like 'ay' than 'y'. But suspicions are all I have.
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Post by Alvamiga on Sept 8, 2013 22:49:48 GMT
It all sounds Dutch to me!
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 9, 2013 0:24:31 GMT
wg ... read DG's post more closely ... the y is there: ... DayChooy. Day as in the normal word, Ch as ch in Bach (the composer, properly pronounced in German btw), oo as in cool and y as the one in you. I've been thinking of it as Afrikaans, which I suspect differs from Dutch in have an (even) more guttural g, and 'ij' pronounced like 'ay' than 'y'. But suspicions are all I have. Oh, I read it all right. The original, DGoeij has no 'y', so I was trying to determine how the pronunciation guide he provided matched with that line of vowels. I asked whether 'j' = 'y'. Maybe it's 'ij' = 'y'? Or, maybe it's 'eij' = 'y'? I didn't list all the possible permutations because I was lazy. But I still don't see how all those vowels got used. I'm also assuming that the 'Goe', which I think he is asserting sounds liked the 'Ch' in Channuka with the 'oo' in cool appended.....which, for me, would sound like an English speaker horking up a loogie.
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Post by Mari on Sept 9, 2013 6:59:28 GMT
No, oe is the oo from cool and ij is the y. oei is one vowelcombination in Dutch, just like you have eau in French.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 9, 2013 7:40:33 GMT
Yup, what Mari said. And the G all by itself is the "ch" in Bach sound. I should look up what my learning Dutch book says about the pronounciations.
It does sound a bit Yiddish now that I think of it.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 9, 2013 7:57:51 GMT
Okidoki, here is what my book says:
g: Beware! g in Dutch is never prounounced in the English way. It is the same sound as Dutch "ch".
ch: Dutch ch spells one sound. It is the same sound as the ch in Scottish "loch" or German "Bach" and made by friction at the back of the mouth.
j: is pronounced the same as English y.
oe: This vowel is very like the English oo in "pool", but shorter and made further back in the mouth. (I put in a note "uu" as the sound).
ei/ij: This sound is not found in English. It is somewhere between the sound in English "light" and the sound in English "late"
oei: This sound is a combination of Dutch "oe" and "ie"
ie: This is like the English vowel sound in "neat" but shorter.
This is all take from Huge in 3 months Dutch. The Essential guide to understanding and speaking Dutch.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 9, 2013 14:04:05 GMT
Thank you, RB...That is a thorough answer. I appreciate it. Now I know more about Dutchspeak...or, is that Nederspeke?
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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 9, 2013 14:49:37 GMT
Nederlands for the Dutchies.
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Post by DGoeij on Sept 9, 2013 17:45:25 GMT
ABN if you want to go all out. But eh, I wrote that at the end of a long weekend, gimme a break. Lady RB has it though. As such, you see variants of my last name ending in oei, oey and oeij (of course, the latter being the most posh one ) in different families and they all rhyme.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 9, 2013 17:46:54 GMT
And then you have different Dutchies with their different regional accents pronouncing it a bit different anyway!
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Post by DGoeij on Sept 9, 2013 18:14:10 GMT
Yeah, you should hear the Southies have a go at all that.
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Post by Moose on Sept 9, 2013 20:35:20 GMT
dee chooey? I always say it in my head as 'de gowdge'
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Post by Alvamiga on Sept 9, 2013 22:15:05 GMT
I always assumed it was Hoek or similar, just normally registers as DG!
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 9, 2013 22:16:16 GMT
No...Day CCCkkuooy.
Sounds like "FOOEY!" Only with the throat-clearing first.
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Post by Mari on Sept 10, 2013 6:42:49 GMT
That's quite near it, WG!
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Post by Miisa on Sept 10, 2013 7:07:31 GMT
What are you guys talking about? Obviously it's pronounced DutchGuy!
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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 10, 2013 7:55:25 GMT
No...Day CCCkkuooy. Sounds like "FOOEY!" Only with the throat-clearing first. Yeah, just pretend you're doing one of those big phlegm spits from the back of your throat and add a G and you get the sound. It's the worst in Amsterdam. They do it really harsh. Lot softer most everywhere else.
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Post by Alvamiga on Sept 10, 2013 8:04:38 GMT
Do you have to keep a towel on you in case they mention him?
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Post by raspberrybullets on Sept 10, 2013 8:11:22 GMT
The Dutch have lots of G words. It's best to keep a towel for all occasions.
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Post by DGoeij on Sept 10, 2013 17:35:32 GMT
You never know when you might have to hitchhike.
Hehehe, Day CCCkkuooy. I'm almost changing my username again.
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