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Post by Moose on Oct 27, 2013 19:12:29 GMT
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Post by spaceflower on Nov 28, 2013 3:18:58 GMT
"Now, as in the 1920s and 30s, many Europeans agree with Brand that all politicians are crooks and democracy is a sham."
We still don't have any better system than democracy.
Winston Churchill has already said it: "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
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Post by Alvamiga on Nov 28, 2013 8:08:35 GMT
I totally agree that what we call democracy is a farce, especially in light of this travesty of a government we have now. What kind of insanity allows a system where we have a government which two-thirds of the population voted against. Even in the position of forming a coalition, as the electorate, we had no choice in if we wanted it or not, even if we voted for the parties in it.
We now have a Conservative government and the Lib-Dems got a feeling of being important for a short while, while they lay on the ground and got trampled, destroying and integrity they may have previously stood for.
The greatest hurdle that has to be cleared is the fact that the people in a position to change things are the ones in power, who don't want to change it because it is their source of power.
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Post by Moose on Nov 28, 2013 19:26:03 GMT
I agree with both the above. Democracy has its flaws but I certainly do not wish to live under anarchy! However I do feel that the UK system of voting is over-ripe for change. I suspect that many people do not bother to vote in nationals because they know that their vote will not count. Here, for instance, is a safe Labour seat and so no matter who you vote for a Labour MP is going to be returned. That suits me as I like Labour but nonetheless, I can understand how someone who did not would feel pissed off and not properly represented as they know that their Tory vote will not count at all towards who is in government.
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Post by Alvamiga on Nov 28, 2013 19:54:47 GMT
Even with the Tory GovernmentCoalition I don't think that it should stand for a full term. We have ended up with a Government that approximately 2 to 1 of the votes cast were against! That cannot be right!
If a no confidence vote was somehow taken I would vote on it without hesitation!
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