I've just been walking the dog in Brechfa Forest, a particularly beautiful area owned by the Forestry commission. I was utterly horrified to see that someone had tipped what looks like a room's worth of stuff - furniture, toys, white goods and rubbish - into the forest.
Why? Why do that? There are local recycling groups who will come out and take your stuff for free, and if you are going to load it into a van, then why drive a mile or so up bumpy forestry track (which can't have been easy) and not go into town to the local tip?
I had a friend who was moving house and was near to meltdown with the stress. He needed to discard some rubbish and through it over a fence (I forget whose fence it was). The council spotted a letter in the rubbish and charged him with fly tipping.
I have had stuff chucked into my garden on occasion and a builder used to keep leaving rubble and related stuff in the alley along the back.
I think the worst I have personally had was a stereo unit, which didn't do well after falling about 6-7 feet from the top of the gate!
Sadly, I have seen on the TV people pretending to be legitimate disposal companies who, in preference to paying the site for dumping large quantities of stuff, take it away to the country site, dump it and keep the cash paid for its disposal!
Too many people have the mentality that as soon as they can't see it any more, the Magic Fairy deals with it (as is testified when you see the hedgerows alongside many main roads).
I had some stuff that I needed taking away not long ago and a neighbour offered to take it for a tenner .. cf twenty five for the council to come and collect it. I was tempted but, as I could not be absolutely sure that he would not just drive it to a remote place and dump it, I declined
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In all my house moves, which involved getting rid of a lot od stuff over the years, we've never once had to pay at the tip. We've just brought it along (mattresses, white goods etc) and they've taken it without a word. This is why I can't understand people deliberately driving into the middle of nowhere, to a site of beauty, and dumping it there.
There's also a recycling group in my area which will come and collect unwanted items for resale. I'm sure there's similar schemes in other parts of the country.
The tip here is quite expensive. You have to pay per kilogram. Also, you have to bring things to recycling and if they don't want it, you have to take it back with you. Getting rid of your stuff for free is only going to happen if you dump it somewhere. Not that that is an excuse of course. I pay 1,50 euro every time I throw away a binliner in the underground container too.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Jan 13, 2014 3:20:35 GMT
Yeah, i was wondering what fly tipping was all about. I thought it was some weird game maybe, cruelty to flies?
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I figured it from context, too....but, also, here the charge to dump at a local refuse landfill is usually called a 'tipping fee', so I made that connection, as well. I just assumed that the 'fly' was being used as the same as 'on the fly'.
Someone else's definition that sounds about right...
I think it comes from the English expression to do something "on the fly" which means in a rush and without thinking, on the move. This is combined with tipping to make the term fly tipping, meaning to dump rubbish, originally "on the fly" by dumping from a moving vehicle.
Also fly-posting is putting up posters without permission, in the same vein.
The rules around here could have been written by Kafka.
The nearest recycling point is about four miles away, but it's in Nottinghamshire. As I technically live in Derbyshire I'm not allowed to use it ( they check your ID on arrival ). So we have to travel twelve miles to use the Derbyshire dump. Anyone using a van, even if its just hired for the day, has to have a permit in both counties dumps. Permits cost money. The local council will take way three large items but it costs £35.00.
I do not condone local fly tipping but I can understand why people do it out of frustration.
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Absolutely true story: when I was a child out with my parents for day trips we used regularly to go to a place for walks which had a big sign reading 'no tipping'. I honestly thought that it meant that you were not allowed to tip the sign over, and I wondered why they didn't just take it away if they were that worried about its well-being.
We can get rid of things once per year for free. It is called "Sperrmuell" and we just have to fill in a form and send that to the ENO and they give us an appointment to tell us when they will pick it up in front of the house that we live in. If you want that done more than once per year, it costs 60 € which means that when we moved, we had to take a lot of things with us that we had actually wanted to get rid of, like the old kitchen. It's still in our cellar, but we're going to fill in that form soon so we can get rid of things.
There is also a waste disposal site where we could bring these things ourselves, but since we don't have a car, we can't really do that. People still occasionally do the fly-tipping here, but what we see more frequently is people dumping rubbish bags. If you have too much to fit in your personal bin, you can buy a bin bag for 5.35 € which we have done as well in the past, but apparently, some people don't see a point in paying that money and dump their bin bags somewhere.