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Post by whollygoats on Sept 29, 2023 17:54:06 GMT
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erekose
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Busy dusting off the sofa in the Dark Corner as Mini-Ungoliant feeds on the strays photons that vent
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Post by erekose on Sept 29, 2023 19:24:18 GMT
Sometimes I think it's a growwing malaise. The hastening descent from our current sociological peak into a new Dark Age.
Sometimes I wonder if one of my ancestors was a Romanised Celt, living in viriconium as Roman also fell, and civilisation retreated back towards Roman as it imploded.
And its not just individuals, call me a conspiratorialist, BUT, I believe that the demolition of The Crooked House was not an accident, a miscommunication, but was intended just simply to clear the land for future development.
or, maybe akin to the burning of the Library at Alexandria.. done simply to become famous as the person who did it.
Or an inbuilt part of our collective psyche to destroy as much as to create.. akin to the griefers in some one line games whose sole joy is to bring down and obl;iterate things of beauty and skill that others have made.
Now I'm considering rereading The Dark Corridor by Michael Moorcock.
Otherwise... I have no insight to help you with your quest for answers
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Post by Moose on Sept 30, 2023 1:02:06 GMT
No I do not know why it was done but I am bloody furious . I cannot even begin to understand why anyone would think that this was an amusing thing to do.
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Post by whollygoats on Sept 30, 2023 1:42:03 GMT
No I do not know why it was done but I am bloody furious . I cannot even begin to understand why anyone would think that this was an amusing thing to do. I wonder at what is not being told the public. It looks to me as though whoever did the deed had access to a chainsaw with a fairly long blade. One cannot just drive up to where the sycamore was; the tools and fuel would have to have been packed in. That sounds like more than one sixteen year old boy... Just sayin'...
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Post by Moose on Sept 30, 2023 1:44:05 GMT
Well yeah they said that a sixteen year old had been arrested and I thought - uh uh. I've never tried to cut down a tree myself, still less a large and old one, but it's really not something that you can do with .. a herring.
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Post by JoeP on Sept 30, 2023 16:42:40 GMT
They'll have to call it something else now. Sycaless Gap.
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Post by tangent on Sept 30, 2023 17:12:21 GMT
Bard (Google's AI) reckons it would normally take from one to three hours to cut down a tree that size.
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Post by juju on Oct 1, 2023 9:55:10 GMT
I've never been there, but it looks quite remote?
I just can't fathom how a sixteen year old (and sixteen year olds can't drive in the UK) managed to get to it with a huge chainsaw? Very much a premeditated feat. Very strange and very sad.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 1, 2023 14:21:52 GMT
I've never been there, but it looks quite remote? I just can't fathom how a sixteen year old (and sixteen year olds can't drive in the UK) managed to get to it with a huge chainsaw? Very much a premeditated feat. Very strange and very sad. I have been there. There is no road to where the tree stood. Only the footpath along the wall. Now, they might have had an all-terrain vehicle, but it still was not just a sixteen-year-old boy. It would have been a goodly distance to pack a chainsaw and fuel. Recent reports indicate that the boy has been released on bail and a sixty year old man has been arrested.
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Post by Moose on Oct 2, 2023 1:07:06 GMT
The man arrested used to be a lumberjack and had a chainsaw in his possession. Of course, innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 9, 2023 17:38:55 GMT
Bard (Google's AI) reckons it would normally take from one to three hours to cut down a tree that size. That's prolly during full light. Now, try it at night, far from any electric light. They'd have had to have had their own lighting, or work without. If it was lit, it would have been obvious from the road through Once Brewed, which is where I took the photo that constitutes my F******k banner. Looking at Google Maps, that road is B6318 and along it are several traveller's accommodations which are each about 600 meters from the Gap and in straight line sight. It seems odd to me that nobody heard a chainsaw, or saw any lights, up on the wall in the Gap, at night. There is no other vegetation to muffle the noise, nor impede the light. Very curious.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 9, 2023 17:44:26 GMT
And...I have to ask.
A 'lumberjack' who lives in Hexham? Really?
They have enough forest in and around Northumbria to support a lumberjack career? It sure didn't seem that way to me.
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Post by Moose on Oct 13, 2023 6:12:45 GMT
I dunno. Did you explore all of the region though? I myself have not, though my mum and some relatives are from there and I've done a fair amount of walking there. I did not count trees, though.
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 20, 2023 19:54:36 GMT
What the heck was the purpose in their heads? That tree was just fine where it was. People!
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 20, 2023 19:56:44 GMT
Well yeah they said that a sixteen year old had been arrested and I thought - uh uh. I've never tried to cut down a tree myself, still less a large and old one, but it's really not something that you can do with .. a herring. I have! And it certainly will take more than one person. This does not look like the work of a lone 16 year old.
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Post by tangent on Oct 21, 2023 13:57:04 GMT
When I was 16, I cut down a tree on my own with an axe. But it was a pine tree and only a foot in diameter. I would baulk at trying to cut a sycamore of that age and size.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 21, 2023 16:22:50 GMT
When I was 16, I cut down a tree on my own with an axe. But it was a pine tree and only a foot in diameter. I would baulk at trying to cut a sycamore of that age and size. Plus, upon seeing the stump and the fallen tree, that was done with a chainsaw with a decent sized bar. They would have needed lights and made a shipload of noise.
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 22, 2023 15:49:10 GMT
Can’t imagine what the size was as pics don’t truely show the size. Did they ever say the diameter of the tree trunk?
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Post by tangent on Oct 23, 2023 12:24:03 GMT
From Bard, Google's AI: The "Sycamore Gap" tree, a sycamore tree that stood on Hadrian's Wall in Northumberland, England, had a trunk that was 25 feet (7.6 meters) in circumference." 25 feet circumference is equivalent to a diameter of 8ft. However, from the photo here, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66994729it is more like 2 to 3 ft in diameter.
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Post by kingedmund on Oct 23, 2023 14:22:16 GMT
Oh my goodness gracious! That wide! I don’t even know what to do with a trunk that size. Last tree that was big I had removed be a professional service. It wasn’t more than half that size and they had to core it so it would not grow back.
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 24, 2023 16:27:48 GMT
I understand that the arboreal types are recommending that the stump be allowed to regenerate, as is.
Somebody evidently thought it worthy to plant a new sapling at the site, but officials of the National Trust (or, whoever) had it removed.
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Post by Moose on Oct 24, 2023 23:27:17 GMT
Why did they have it removed?
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Post by whollygoats on Oct 25, 2023 1:19:08 GMT
Why did they have it removed? I'm not sure, but I suspect it is because another tree (the planted sapling) would compete with the existing stump resurrecting a new tree. I'm fairly sure that the National Trust, or whatever administrative unit which cares for the property on an ongoing basis, doesn't want just everybody wandering in a planting new trees and bushes willy-nilly about the National Trust or other Heritage properties. Control.
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