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Post by Moose on Dec 17, 2014 0:04:57 GMT
132 children murdered in Pakistan by the Taliban - an event that seems to be getting far less recognition than it ought. Who the fuck ARE these people? How can anyone, no matter how fanatical, really bring themselves to believe that their god approves of this?
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My God
Dec 17, 2014 6:46:18 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Dec 17, 2014 6:46:18 GMT
Just sick. Sick! Sick! I believe the same should happen to them.
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My God
Dec 17, 2014 11:19:43 GMT
Post by JoeP on Dec 17, 2014 11:19:43 GMT
There still seems to be more news about the Sydney hostage situation. This should overshadow that.
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My God
Dec 17, 2014 16:50:29 GMT
Post by Mari on Dec 17, 2014 16:50:29 GMT
Our news had items on both. Dutch experts on the Pakistan situation say it's revenge for the increased vigilance of the Pakistani army towards Alq'aeda. The school itself was an army school with kids from officers and apparently many kids would join the army after school. That would explain why it was a target. Unfortunately it's not even a new low for terrorist groups.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:03:12 GMT
Post by tangent on Dec 17, 2014 23:03:12 GMT
How can anyone, no matter how fanatical, really bring themselves to believe that their god approves of this? Their god had nothing to do with it, that's a red herring.
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My God
Dec 17, 2014 23:42:54 GMT
Post by jayme on Dec 17, 2014 23:42:54 GMT
It's all over the news here.
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Dec 18, 2014 3:20:17 GMT
Post by Moose on Dec 18, 2014 3:20:17 GMT
How can anyone, no matter how fanatical, really bring themselves to believe that their god approves of this? Their god had nothing to do with it, that's a red herring. No it is not. They act in the name of their god, however misguided that might be.
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Dec 18, 2014 6:58:22 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Dec 18, 2014 6:58:22 GMT
Well they hide behind it anyway.
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Dec 18, 2014 8:26:28 GMT
Post by raspberrybullets on Dec 18, 2014 8:26:28 GMT
It was the first news item here, ahead of the Sydney seige. I was surprised at the reaction of the US when school children are constantly killed in mass shootings over there, seemed ironic. Apparently here in Oz, the Pakistan Taliban were not on the "considered terrorist" list.
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Dec 19, 2014 14:10:20 GMT
Post by Alvamiga on Dec 19, 2014 14:10:20 GMT
Their god had nothing to do with it, that's a red herring. No it is not. They act in the name of their god, however misguided that might be. Our government get involved in wars in the name of the people. Doesn't mean the people approve of it!
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Dec 19, 2014 15:47:56 GMT
Post by tangent on Dec 19, 2014 15:47:56 GMT
Our government get involved in wars in the name of the people. Doesn't mean the people approve of it! True, the Irish Republicans were not too keen.
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Dec 20, 2014 15:45:05 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 15:45:05 GMT
It shocked me so much I have to admit I didn't really want to hear more. There are no words for something as bad as that.
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Dec 21, 2014 1:09:55 GMT
Post by Moose on Dec 21, 2014 1:09:55 GMT
Our government get involved in wars in the name of the people. Doesn't mean the people approve of it! True, the Irish Republicans were not too keen. !! The IRA were 'not that keen'?
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Dec 28, 2014 23:21:59 GMT
Post by Shake on Dec 28, 2014 23:21:59 GMT
How can anyone, no matter how fanatical, really bring themselves to believe that their god approves of this? Their god had nothing to do with it, that's a red herring. And your comment misses the point. As you know, I would agree that their god had nothing to do with it. Moose was asking about the belief of these fanatics. They believe that they are justified in this slaughter, and their justification comes from their religion, their god ... at least in their heads. For Christians, you would think the whole, "thou shalt not kill" thing would be what puts the kibosh on such activity. Though it's very apparent that many Christians are already victims of cognitive dissonance, so it is hardly surprising that some might be able to get past it. I mean, otherwise, capital punishment would have been universally done away with long ago (in nations of Christian majority).
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Dec 28, 2014 23:54:42 GMT
Post by Moose on Dec 28, 2014 23:54:42 GMT
Some of the most fervent supporters of capital punishment I have ever met have been American Christians.
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Post by tangent on Dec 29, 2014 0:56:48 GMT
Their god had nothing to do with it, that's a red herring. And your comment misses the point. As you know, I would agree that their god had nothing to do with it. Moose was asking about the belief of these fanatics. They believe that they are justified in this slaughter, and their justification comes from their religion, their god ... at least in their heads. That was the sense I was thinking of. The Taliban didn't murder 132 children because they thought their god approved of it, they murdered them to gain more power. Religion is being used to legitimise their campaign for more power.
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Dec 29, 2014 15:15:54 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Dec 29, 2014 15:15:54 GMT
Yep. Very true.
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Dec 29, 2014 22:16:07 GMT
Post by Moose on Dec 29, 2014 22:16:07 GMT
I beg to differ Steve. I think that they DID think that their God approved it.
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Dec 30, 2014 0:00:34 GMT
Post by tangent on Dec 30, 2014 0:00:34 GMT
We don't know, there was probably a bit of both in it. But I bet the power came first. As in The defeat of NATO
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My God
Jan 2, 2015 22:17:41 GMT
Post by Moose on Jan 2, 2015 22:17:41 GMT
I dunno ... and to be honest it probably does not make much difference. I do think that these men, most of them at least, genuinely do believe that what they are doing is God's work and that really bothers me.
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Jan 3, 2015 19:37:15 GMT
Post by Shake on Jan 3, 2015 19:37:15 GMT
I beg to differ Steve. I think that they DID think that their God approved it. I think it's done for both reasons. The more power thing is simply an added bonus for them. The power aspect has also been a significant factor in religions' prosperity for all this time.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:19:37 GMT
Post by Yuki on Jan 23, 2015 11:19:37 GMT
132 children murdered in Pakistan by the Taliban - an event that seems to be getting far less recognition than it ought. Who the fuck ARE these people? How can anyone, no matter how fanatical, really bring themselves to believe that their god approves of this? If it's any consolation the Afghan branch of Al-Qaeda condemned the attack.
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