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Post by Moose on Feb 3, 2015 19:04:30 GMT
Unconfirmed reports say that the Jordanian irman captured by ISIS has been burned alive. Sometimes I don't want to live in this world ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by jayme on Feb 4, 2015 2:48:30 GMT
Here they're saying he was killed in December, but they tried to make Jordan think he was still alive so they could trade him for a prisoner.
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Post by tangent on Feb 4, 2015 15:28:00 GMT
It's horrible but I think we were capable of such atrocities in Elizabethan times.
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Post by Moose on Feb 4, 2015 19:22:55 GMT
Well yes but we're not IN Elizabethan times.
Jayme they are saying the same here except they say he was killed early Jan
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Post by jayme on Feb 4, 2015 22:58:41 GMT
You're right. I saw something that said Jan. 3rd earlier today.
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Post by Moose on Feb 4, 2015 23:03:42 GMT
I can't even begin to think how his parents must feel. Bad enough to lose a child but to know that they died under such circumstances?
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Post by jayme on Feb 4, 2015 23:05:52 GMT
I can't imagine how awful it must be for them. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by spaceflower on Feb 5, 2015 11:55:18 GMT
Nothing is too cruel or dreadful for IS.
I've seen pictures of an IS soldier holding a gun to a little child's head, I've seen pictures of beheaded children, I've seen a woman being halal slaughtered.
King Abdullah will have to act so that the powerful Beduin clan of Kasasbeh does not act on their own. So Jordan will continue to fight IS.
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Post by Moose on Feb 5, 2015 20:27:20 GMT
As a Muslim friend said to me yesterday 'these people are not just not Muslims. They are not human beings.'
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Post by spaceflower on Feb 6, 2015 1:16:29 GMT
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Post by ceptimus on Feb 6, 2015 11:57:16 GMT
These reports may be true, but beware that this sort of story always appears as propaganda when governments are trying to swing public opinion in favour of starting a proper war.
Remember the stories of Iraqi soldiers looting incubators from Kuwait and tossing the babies that were in them on the floor to die? George Bush Senior mentioned these several times in rallies leading up to the start of the first Iraq war, but after the war it turned out that the events never happened.
Jordan was on the brink of withdrawing support for military action against I.S. The Jordanian public didn't want their Muslim airmen attacking fellow Muslims. The USA was applying encouragement and pressure on Jordan's government to stay within the anti-I.S. alliance. The UAE had already withdrawn and Jordan was the token Muslim country remaining.
Following the burning of the airman, Jordanian public opinion is in favour of escalating the action against I.S. - even though this will inevitably result in further Jordanian deaths.
Perhaps it is I.S. themselves who want Jordan to remain fighting against them for whatever reasons? The I.S. strategy seems to be to goad the west into another boots-on-the-ground invasion, so that they can continue to kill western soldiers, cause the USA and its allies to spend huge amounts of money on military equipment, and dominate news reports.
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