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Post by Moose on Feb 19, 2017 22:13:36 GMT
Actually wake up in the morning formulating lying stories that he can come out with? Does he realise (re the terrorist attack he claimed had happened in Sweden) that people can check these things and know that he is talking bullshit? I am genuinely interested.
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Post by tangent on Feb 19, 2017 22:24:12 GMT
No, I think his team make up stories and give him snippets of information and he makes things up on the fly.
He probably voiced the Swedish incident wrongly. The previous evening he had heard a 'dreadful' news story about Sweden taking in so many immigrants. He just recounted it wrongly.
He doesn't care if it can be fact checked because Fox News downplays any errors and the liberal media is fake.
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Post by raspberrybullets on Feb 19, 2017 23:07:15 GMT
Maybe he's testing the journalists.
I doubt he formulates lies in the morning, I think he just doesn't know what he's talking about and misunderstands things so he just comes out with bullshit without even knowing it.
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Post by Moose on Feb 19, 2017 23:10:42 GMT
Which is at bad
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Post by Miisa on Feb 20, 2017 13:30:37 GMT
I think he watches Fox news all day long. Seriously. And if they say something there he believes it wholesale, even if he misheard it or they were joking, or it was actually referencing something completely different that he mushed together with what they were saying earlier. So it is a game of telephone where he is several steps away from what Fox News says. FOX NEWS.
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Post by hexgoblinweb on Feb 20, 2017 15:37:16 GMT
Fox News is getting or has had a very bad reputation of being a satirical news station. (Does that help you understand why Trump watches it?) The latest decision I heard made by Trump is that he wants to regulate the news media. Now, tell me, how in the 'h..e..double hockey sticks' is he going to do that without going against the No. 1 right from the Bill of Rights: Freedom of speech. All I have heard about him is that he is going to get rid of this law and that right or something equally ridiculous. I heard he has even told the Supreme Court they cannot tell him what he can and cannot do. The arrogant, bigoted, sexist, bastard (excuse my language) is planning on becoming our first Dictator. He has made it plain that women are beneath him and "excepts" all the women in government or service in the White House are to "dress like women". What the HELL? Putin, Trumps so-called best friend, is laughing behind his back, knowing that he can control Trump like a puppet. He is not giving any of the countries where he has businesses any backlash, KNOWING that many of those countries are in affiliation with Iraq. And this business of deporting entire families is not going to go well. Don't get me wrong, I agree, immigrants who enter the US illegally should be deported, immediately. But I think the deportation process could go a bit better and maybe even stop a lot more illegal immigrants. Give those who are here illegally the option of becoming a citizen, denouncing any affiliation with their native country or be deported. It's as easy as that. Sorry I am not fond of this perfect example of the male dominance species, if you haven't gathered that by now.
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Post by tangent on Feb 20, 2017 16:02:58 GMT
The latest decision I heard made by Trump is that he wants to regulate the news media. Now, tell me, how in the 'h..e..double hockey sticks' is he going to do that without going against the No. 1 right from the Bill of Rights: Freedom of speech. All I have heard about him is that he is going to get rid of this law and that right or something equally ridiculous. I heard he has even told the Supreme Court they cannot tell him what he can and cannot do. I'm sure a lot of people think that but it's nonsense. Your source may have exaggerated his wishes and are stating it's what he believes he can do. I think he knows better than that, he's not that daft.
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Post by Moose on Feb 20, 2017 19:57:31 GMT
I think you underestimate just how daft this man is, Steve
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Post by Miisa on Feb 21, 2017 6:09:35 GMT
I think he expects to run the country like he runs his companies; that he has complete control and everyone around him is a sycophant. Any criticism is seen as an attack which he still responds to as an egomaniacal tycoon might, not realising that the situation is and should be completely different now.
Even the Fox reporters are appalled against his reactions, so he is running out of media he might consider "friendly" very fast. What is left, Breitbart?
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Post by tangent on Feb 21, 2017 10:45:00 GMT
I think you underestimate just how daft this man is, Steve I'm aware he's friends with Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage
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Post by hexgoblinweb on Feb 21, 2017 15:40:20 GMT
He may not be 'daft' but he isn't very intelligent. He thinks only of himself and want he can get out of other people to his advantage. I believe he honestly is thinking of the position of president should be run as a corporate dynasty than a diplomatic country. If he doesn't start WWIII, I will be totally surprised.
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Post by Moose on Feb 21, 2017 18:46:45 GMT
The problem is that he genuinely thinks he IS intelligent. And he isn't. He's not totally stupid but he does not have a high IQ or a good understanding of world affairs.
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Post by spaceflower on Feb 22, 2017 1:16:57 GMT
We were somewhat baffled about what terrible attack had happende "last night in Sweden". www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/20/last-night-in-sweden-figment-trumps-fox-news-inspired-imaginationWe have not had any terror attacks in Sweden since 2010 (the terrorist only managed to kill himself). Of course it can happen any day. It can happen anythere. Of course, we have problem with crime. As the police well know, most violent crimes (murder, attempted murders, rapes) are committed by immigrants or sons of immigrants. But the criminality in USA is still much higher. But sympathisers of Trump love him whatever he says. He cannot do anything wrong. Who cares about facts, now that we have "alternative" facts.
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Post by tangent on Feb 22, 2017 1:32:35 GMT
We stand with you, Sweden, in your time of need.
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Post by tangent on Feb 22, 2017 1:47:15 GMT
As the police well know, most violent crimes (murder, attempted murders, rapes) are committed by immigrants or sons of immigrants. But that's not actually true. Most violent crimes are not committed by immigrants and the crime rate of sons of immigrants is on a par with the rest of the population. A higher rate is not the same as 'most violent crime'. I don't know what the higher rate is - an increase of 10% is a higher rate - but to say that most violent crime is committed by immigrants is a gross exaggeration. It would imply that the rate was 20 times as high, or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 4:57:40 GMT
As the police well know, most violent crimes (murder, attempted murders, rapes) are committed by immigrants or sons of immigrants. But that's not actually true. Most violent crimes are not committed by immigrants and the crime rate of sons of immigrants is on a par with the rest of the population. A higher rate is not the same as 'most violent crime'. I don't know what the higher rate is - an increase of 10% is a higher rate - but to say that most violent crime is committed by immigrants is a gross exaggeration. It would imply that the rate was 20 times as high, or something like that. You beat me to it tangent. I was just going to post this link about How Anti-Immigration Activists Misuse Rape StatisticsThis article shows that according to crime victim surveys, the actual rate of sex crimes has been more or less unchanged in Sweden between 2005 and 2014, despite the fact that immigration has increased during the same time period. Instead, the increasing rates of reported rapes are influenced by expansion of the legal rape definition, an increase in the tendency to report rapes, police efforts to classify each individual rape as a separate crime and their tendency to classify any sex crime that could potentially be rape as rape. It will also demonstrate that reported rates between countries such as Sweden and Denmark cannot be naively compared to do the large difference in legal rape definition and police registration methods.
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Post by Moose on Feb 22, 2017 18:38:45 GMT
Thank you for that Nazz
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Post by spaceflower on Feb 23, 2017 0:16:57 GMT
Most immigrants are honest people. But the fact is that integration has not succeeded well in Sweden. Almost every day we hear about shootings and they are criminal gangs of immigrant origin. Now everybody talks about what a soon to be retired policeman Peter Springare from Örebro wrote on Facebook: www.rt.com/news/376582-sweden-cop-immigrant-crime/
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Post by Mari on Feb 23, 2017 10:02:31 GMT
So you keep saying, but who is "everyone" and how often is "every day"? Your entire fact is based on what one person said. Do you even know what kind of person he is? He could be the biggest exaggerating bigot ever to exist (I'm not saying he is, but you don't know he isn't either).
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Post by spaceflower on Feb 23, 2017 12:52:00 GMT
Oh, what he said is very well known but the politicians don't know what to do so they prefer to keep quiet about it. I fear what the election in 2018 will bring. People are scared and angry and many will vote for the Sweden democrats. The police seems powerless. So many shootings in Malmö. Witnesses say nothing, surviving victims say nothing. Those who suffer most from these immigrant criminal gangs are other immigrants, living in these areas. Riots and no arrests: www.thelocal.se/20170222/no-arrests-after-rinkeby-riots-sweden-stockholm-policeSo Trump is right that we have problems in Sweden, he just did not get his facts right. Guess he is not that interested in Sweden, he just wants an deterrant example. But USA has had riots a long time though maybe not by immigrants.
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Post by spaceflower on Feb 27, 2017 3:58:11 GMT
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