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Apr 5, 2013 18:10:22 GMT
Post by Moose on Apr 5, 2013 18:10:22 GMT
How many horses are going to be killed during the National tomorrow?
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Apr 5, 2013 18:36:51 GMT
Post by Alvamiga on Apr 5, 2013 18:36:51 GMT
Too many, I expect!
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Apr 5, 2013 20:51:37 GMT
Post by tangent on Apr 5, 2013 20:51:37 GMT
It's the Grand National tomorrow? Oh goodie.
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Apr 5, 2013 21:05:24 GMT
Post by Moose on Apr 5, 2013 21:05:24 GMT
apparently
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Apr 5, 2013 23:07:23 GMT
Post by tangent on Apr 5, 2013 23:07:23 GMT
Two horses died last year and two the year before that, so my guess is two.
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Apr 6, 2013 2:25:08 GMT
Post by jayme on Apr 6, 2013 2:25:08 GMT
If enough horses die tomorrow, maybe Tesco will discount their beef burger.
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Apr 6, 2013 9:21:35 GMT
Post by tangent on Apr 6, 2013 9:21:35 GMT
If enough horses die tomorrow, maybe Tesco will discount their beef burger.
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Apr 6, 2013 9:55:15 GMT
Post by Alvamiga on Apr 6, 2013 9:55:15 GMT
I think it is very sad that the casualties are just accepted as part of it.
They were making a deal yesterday about how the fences have been modified but, ultimately, it's the jumping over them and falling down badly that is the problem.
I had discussion about it some time ago and it seems to mostly come down to the fact that it would be hard and expensive to heal the horse's injuries and they would almost certainly never be able to race again.
...well, that's okay then! <BANG> Problem solved!
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Apr 6, 2013 10:09:35 GMT
Post by tangent on Apr 6, 2013 10:09:35 GMT
If in 1000 years time, technology had advanced to the extent where robots were used instead of horses, and you couldn't tell the difference, and a robot had to be 'put down' would you have any qualms? What is it about putting down a horse that we feel is wrong when we do it every day with cattle and sheep?
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Apr 6, 2013 10:20:58 GMT
Post by Alvamiga on Apr 6, 2013 10:20:58 GMT
A robot could be used for scrap or repaired. To me this is all about respect. These horses have earned huge amounts of money for their owners and, as soon as they lose their earning value and would cost their owners an amount of that money, they are just dumped to save the expense!
I accept animals that die for food as part of the food chain and I personally make all efforts to use every last scrap of anything I purchase for that purpose and make it a point not to prepare food I am not going to eat. I do not like it when animals die just to be cut up and left on the side of someone's plate.
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Apr 6, 2013 11:46:59 GMT
Post by juju on Apr 6, 2013 11:46:59 GMT
If in 1000 years time, technology had advanced to the extent where robots were used instead of horses, and you couldn't tell the difference, and a robot had to be 'put down' would you have any qualms? What is it about putting down a horse that we feel is wrong when we do it every day with cattle and sheep? Well' I'm actually a vegetarian* now so prolly the wrong person to answer this, but I think what society is and should be moving away from, is animals dying for sport. We disapprove of bear baiting, dog fighting, even fox hunting, so why should horses die for our amusement? ETA: I should say semi-veggie. I eat fish.
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Apr 6, 2013 12:33:32 GMT
Post by Moose on Apr 6, 2013 12:33:32 GMT
What juju said. This is animals dying in the name of sport.
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Apr 6, 2013 15:39:21 GMT
Post by tangent on Apr 6, 2013 15:39:21 GMT
A riderless horse came second. No horses were injured this year.
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Apr 8, 2013 23:50:08 GMT
Post by Shake on Apr 8, 2013 23:50:08 GMT
*Googles Grand National* ... Crikey! It's over twice as long as the Belmont Stakes! And they have to make jumps during it?!? That's just crazy!
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Apr 9, 2013 11:05:41 GMT
Post by tangent on Apr 9, 2013 11:05:41 GMT
This year's Grand National:
It's quite amusing to see who they left behind at the Canal Turn at 2:14.
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