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Post by whollygoats on Jan 7, 2023 15:01:53 GMT
Okay. That I would understand quite well. I don't even like 80 degree heat. But escaping an oncoming freezing rain storm is a different thing entirely. Or, is around here. Here, such an approach is exceedingly problematic. First, we get warnings that such an event might happen, but nobody, including the forecaster, is entirely sure when or how the event will actually manifest. It might be ordinary snow, it might be sleet, or it might be freezing rain. Or, it might not happen at all. Then, when such an event is oncoming, the timing always seems unsure and escaping the region is not easy. Flying will often be entirely unavailable as facilities are shut down to preserve safety. Even booking a commercial flight in time is expensive and neither fast nor easy. Unless, of course, you have access to a private jet at your beck and call. Escaping by surface transport is also impeded by the actual conditions. Driving out in the middle of an ice storm sounds hideous; like an excellent way to be found nose down in an iced over snowbank.
So, I have ask...Do they actually give you sufficient warning to 'get out of Dodge' before it all comes down? Because we don't. With any surety at all.
This sounds suspiciously like what Senator Cruz of Texas does in the event of an oncoming climatic event, but he has special sources and is privileged beyond all common sense. And, he's a thoughtless cad. I'm just wondering how many denizens of locales like Texas and Oklahoma flee their home regions avoiding climatic conditions. Are there vast herds of humans roaming the high plains avoiding unwanted climatic conditions?
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Post by Moose on Jan 10, 2023 1:02:46 GMT
Very windy today. Not nice. Rain. Dark. Sucks.
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Post by JoeP on Jan 10, 2023 10:48:01 GMT
It snowed all day yesterday and all this morning. It has stopped for a bit.
Snow ploughs are quite noisy.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 10, 2023 14:31:17 GMT
So, I have ask...Do they actually give you sufficient warning to 'get out of Dodge' before it all comes down? Because we don't. With any surety at all. This sounds suspiciously like what Senator Cruz of Texas does in the event of an oncoming climatic event, but he has special sources and is privileged beyond all common sense. And, he's a thoughtless cad. I'm just wondering how many denizens of locales like Texas and Oklahoma flee their home regions avoiding climatic conditions. Are there vast herds of humans roaming the high plains avoiding unwanted climatic conditions? Inquiring minds await...
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Post by kingedmund on Jan 10, 2023 16:23:15 GMT
Okay. That I would understand quite well. I don't even like 80 degree heat. But escaping an oncoming freezing rain storm is a different thing entirely. Or, is around here. Here, such an approach is exceedingly problematic. First, we get warnings that such an event might happen, but nobody, including the forecaster, is entirely sure when or how the event will actually manifest. It might be ordinary snow, it might be sleet, or it might be freezing rain. Or, it might not happen at all. Then, when such an event is oncoming, the timing always seems unsure and escaping the region is not easy. Flying will often be entirely unavailable as facilities are shut down to preserve safety. Even booking a commercial flight in time is expensive and neither fast nor easy. Unless, of course, you have access to a private jet at your beck and call. Escaping by surface transport is also impeded by the actual conditions. Driving out in the middle of an ice storm sounds hideous; like an excellent way to be found nose down in an iced over snowbank. So, I have ask...Do they actually give you sufficient warning to 'get out of Dodge' before it all comes down? Because we don't. With any surety at all. This sounds suspiciously like what Senator Cruz of Texas does in the event of an oncoming climatic event, but he has special sources and is privileged beyond all common sense. And, he's a thoughtless cad. I'm just wondering how many denizens of locales like Texas and Oklahoma flee their home regions avoiding climatic conditions. Are there vast herds of humans roaming the high plains avoiding unwanted climatic conditions? I live in a state that is pretty easy to go away from such. Go two south and it can change 5 to 10 degrees warmer. 2 hours north can change 5 to 10 degrees colder. Gets to hot Goto the mountains 10 hour drive away. You typically know when ice and snow is coming here and if one has the time and resources you can leave in time. Most are not as lucky as I am to be able to travel like I do but I did learn how to do what I do to make sure I can. Your state is probably harder, especially in winter, to get away because your right next to mountains. Me, you go south and it is warmer state. In 14 hours, you’re in Mexico taking that direction. I also assume that your roads are not as a strait line to places like ours are. Curves are rarer here unless you go to the mountains. This in turn makes it faster to get where you are going in this state.
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Post by kingedmund on Jan 10, 2023 16:24:11 GMT
So, I have ask...Do they actually give you sufficient warning to 'get out of Dodge' before it all comes down? Because we don't. With any surety at all. This sounds suspiciously like what Senator Cruz of Texas does in the event of an oncoming climatic event, but he has special sources and is privileged beyond all common sense. And, he's a thoughtless cad. I'm just wondering how many denizens of locales like Texas and Oklahoma flee their home regions avoiding climatic conditions. Are there vast herds of humans roaming the high plains avoiding unwanted climatic conditions? Inquiring minds await... Sorry. I have been busy with my businesses as of late. So I’m just popping in quickly. As far as your infatuation with politics that I don’t share for whatever politician you’re talking about, the average person here does the same, especially in retirement. I know a lot of people here that leave for several weeks to stay away from high heat or an ice storm. Now obviously if they work for someone, it’s harder to do that so people on retirement do it more. People that work from home do it as well. My husbands office of work from home attorneys, assistants, and contract specialists do it, granted they have higher salaries and can afford it. Keep in mind, it’s not like they are millionaires either. I’m sure people in your state do the same thing that you are not aware of. What is unwanted climate to one may not be to another. Me, I escape heat a drive to cooler and sometimes snowy places because I like the cooler snowier areas. I also am an avid skier which I’ll will be doing again in a month. My cousin, she goes away from snow to warm vacations like Florida. In fact, several on this forum go to warm places on vacations to get away from snow.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 10, 2023 17:52:41 GMT
I live in a state that is pretty easy to go away from such. Go two south and it can change 5 to 10 degrees warmer. 2 hours north can change 5 to 10 degrees colder. Gets to hot Goto the mountains 10 hour drive away. You typically know when ice and snow is coming here and if one has the time and resources you can leave in time. Most are not as lucky as I am to be able to travel like I do but I did learn how to do what I do to make sure I can. Your state is probably harder, especially in winter, to get away because your right next to mountains. Me, you go south and it is warmer state. In 14 hours, you’re in Mexico taking that direction. I also assume that your roads are not as a strait line to places like ours are. Curves are rarer here unless you go to the mountains. This in turn makes it faster to get where you are going in this state. Thanks. I suspect your supposition is correct. We do have valid mountains very nearby (Mt. Hood, 11K in elevation, is 40 miles east), but we also have an absolutely huge reservoir of water, salt water, just 60 miles west, the Pacific Ocean, separated from the metropolitan area by a lower chain of mountains. This is the source of ALL of our precipitation; moisture laden clouds are pushed eastwards off the relatively warm ocean, up one slope to cool and drop rain, then up a bigger slope to drop snow. No forecast over three days is reliable and many forecasts one day are jettisoned for updated forecasts the next. It gets 'warmer' as one goes south here, as well. But, northern California is not significantly different than western Oregon. It would take 10 hours of driving just to get to San Francisco.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 10, 2023 18:23:07 GMT
Sorry. I have been busy with my businesses as of late. So I’m just popping in quickly. That's cool. So...The average person there basically ignores public events before they walk into a voting booth and cast their ballots? I think this explains a LOT. Like why Texas, Oklahoma, and many other states in that region elect such absolutely terrible politicians. Politicians who walk out on their constituents in a crisis. The people who elect them are clueless. Yeah, we know 'snowbirds' here. They tend to be 'seasonal' migrants, leaving northern locales to migrate south to enjoy reputedly warmer and drier climatic conditions and then north again come the summer months to avoid the scorching and humid climate of the south. The trailer parks are filled with them. Senator Cruz was the only one I was aware of who fled the scene of a climatic crisis incident. He wasn't going for the season, he was fleeing the conditions in which his Texas constituents were trapped and, tentatively, it was just for the duration of the event. It was not a planned vacation. Now, you are informing me that there are masses of privileged individuals fleeing incidents because the conditions are nasty. Then Senator Cruz is your poster boy. Maybe I'm a little rash, but that seems like those folks who have the influence to change the situation such as to protect masses of individuals who cannot flee, for whatever reason, just absent themselves. Yeah...a privileged few escape the worst, but then they do zilch to assure that in the event of a repeat, protection might be provided. They can just escape again the next time... So, yeah...I'm judging. I don't think it is anything other than 'self-centered'. Privileged. Immoral.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 10, 2023 22:56:06 GMT
And, here, the weather is dry. The sun came out today and since it hadn't rained since yesterday, it wasn't as moist.
I wandered in the garden, but wasn't long, as I chilled a mite too fast.
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Post by Moose on Jan 11, 2023 0:10:54 GMT
Cold again. I am just counting every day till it starts to get noticeably lighter at night
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Post by jayme on Jan 11, 2023 10:33:32 GMT
Unseasonably warm 50's F during the day, and cold enough to freeze the pipes at night. I'm ready for spring.
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Post by tangent on Jan 11, 2023 20:05:56 GMT
The wind makes it feel cold today, about 4°C (39°F).
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Post by JoeP on Jan 11, 2023 21:17:52 GMT
+4°C? That's warm!
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Post by kingedmund on Jan 11, 2023 22:25:20 GMT
It’s still unseasonably warmer here. But some years are like that.
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Post by kingedmund on Jan 18, 2023 15:19:15 GMT
Now it’s rainy while being warmer. Getting ready to go skiing in February looking forward to it.
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Post by Moose on Jan 19, 2023 1:30:47 GMT
Cold. But we got a cold weather payment at least.
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Post by tangent on Jan 19, 2023 9:46:20 GMT
I remember one year you didn't have a working boiler over Christmas.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 19, 2023 19:25:46 GMT
I remember one year you didn't have a working boiler over Christmas. Yeah. That's been resolved, right?
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 19, 2023 19:27:26 GMT
Here, the weather is gray and foreboding, but not actually repellent. It is not raining. There is that.
I think that's the best that can be said for today, so far.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 21, 2023 18:26:24 GMT
Pretty much more of the same.
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Post by tangent on Jan 22, 2023 0:02:35 GMT
Same here, wall to wall sunshine, and very cold (for Marple).
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Post by jayme on Jan 22, 2023 4:07:13 GMT
It rained, it snowed, it couldn't decide whether it was above or below freezing. Sigh...
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 22, 2023 13:53:58 GMT
Yeah...We had mixed snow and rain, but nothing accumulated because it was at least two degrees above freezing. It was pretty coming down, though...
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 23, 2023 18:21:37 GMT
O, my dawg....It is harsh direct sunlight. My eyes! My eyes!
I checked the forecast. It says we're to get several days of this, all at a daily high of 8 C. Then, we're to get two days of rain, after which the sunny and clear weather will return, but 6 C degrees cooler. But then, any forecast beyond three days is dubious.
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Post by tangent on Jan 23, 2023 22:50:09 GMT
Time to get out your sunglasses?
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 26, 2023 4:52:35 GMT
False spring. Usually, when it is this clear, this time of year, the temperatures drop to below freezing. Some times, it can last for a couple of weeks. Then, when the patterns shift and offshore winds bring lots of moisture, it ends up transitioning through 'ice' in some form. So far, no plummeting temperatures. It's been hovering at about 8 C for the daily high and falling to 2 C for overnight lows. Pretty typical temperatures. Just unusually dry and sunny. I have been hanging on the balcony, attempting to commune with my avian visitors.
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Post by Kye on Jan 26, 2023 13:21:19 GMT
We got 26 cm of snow last night and it's still coming down. I think I'll work from home today
The schools aren't closed though...
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 26, 2023 17:14:39 GMT
Well, it is still dry and cool, but the blessed overcast is back. I no longer need squint when I step outdoors.
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Post by jayme on Jan 27, 2023 10:10:33 GMT
It's cold, but it has risen above freezing at some point in the last 3 hours, and I heard thunder about 10 or 15 minutes ago.
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Post by whollygoats on Jan 27, 2023 14:26:59 GMT
It's cold, but it has risen above freezing at some point in the last 3 hours, and I heard thunder about 10 or 15 minutes ago. Wow...A warm front rolls through with thunder? And lightning as well?
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