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Post by Kye on Aug 6, 2020 10:33:27 GMT
Hmm. Interesting about the social media shame thing. We don't get that here in Montreal. Maybe because we were the epicenter for Covid in Canada so people know how easy it is to get it, even if you're being careful.
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Post by juju on Aug 6, 2020 10:51:00 GMT
It’s mostly things like showing crowded bars and beaches etc, with the message that these people are acting irresponsibly and they’ll be sorry. There’s also a post going around about a guy who thought it was a hoax and subsequently died of it.
A lot of these posts are shared by my left leaning American friends. And I totally get it - people *are* acting irresponsibly and masks *should* be worn. But the underlying implication is then that if you do catch it you must have been one of those sorts of people.
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Post by tangent on Aug 6, 2020 11:22:00 GMT
There’s also a post going around about a guy who thought it was a hoax and subsequently died of it. I saw a post like that where people - none of my friends - were cheering because he had died. I didn't comment on their posts but simply said that I was sorry he died. People can be horrid sometimes.
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Post by spaceflower on Aug 7, 2020 18:51:56 GMT
Today we went to the bank. Special time for riskgroup people. There was a man and his mother there too. She walked with a cane but looked otherwise very alert. She had had covid-19 and recovered. She was 99 years old! She must have very good genes and a good immune system.
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Post by ceptimus on Aug 7, 2020 19:44:48 GMT
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Post by tangent on Aug 7, 2020 20:23:15 GMT
Pat and I have been invited to participate in a government survey to 'understand more about the coronavirus'. It involves a 30 minute interview, throat and nose swabs once a week for four weeks, and then once a month for 12 months, all taking place at our house. Presumably they would tell us if we were infected.
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Post by kingedmund on Aug 14, 2020 3:33:28 GMT
Did you participate?
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Post by tangent on Aug 14, 2020 5:09:13 GMT
Yes, we rang the required number to register but the first interview is yet to take place.
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Post by juju on Aug 25, 2020 11:02:29 GMT
I was invited to a colleague's house the other day, with some other colleagues. I assumed we would be meeting in the garden, but it turned out we were expected to sit round her table indoors and eat. This is the first time I'd met with so many people (4) and sat so close, and I was really really uncomfortable with it, although I seemed to be the only one - everyone else seemed really happy. I guess the rationale was that we would do the same if it was in a pub, and she lives in a very sparsely populated area with really low numbers, but still. She's also flying to Portugal today, and saw no reason not to fly. I feel really freaked out by all this, like nothing makes sense any more and safety is just what you perceive it to be. I still desperately want to fly and see my son in Poland but my husband thinks it's not safe. I just don't know anything any more, and don't even know how to make a judgment.
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Post by tangent on Aug 25, 2020 11:20:47 GMT
I frequently come across people breaking the rules. The other day almost no one on the bus was wearing a mask. And this morning, I met three of my friends - known as the three wise monkeys - sitting squashed together on a bench on the pavement. Marple is in Greater Manchester, where we are not even supposed to meet one friend closer than three feet let alone two.
As for flying to Poland, if you are vulnerable, I would say not but if you are fairly healthy I would be prepared to take the risk. The worst case would be being stuck with Covid-19 while you are abroad but if your son could take care of you, it wouldn't be disastrous.
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Aug 25, 2020 11:59:56 GMT
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Post by juju on Aug 25, 2020 11:59:56 GMT
We’re not vulnerable other than our age (Adrian is 58). Neither of us have existing conditions that we know of and we’re both slim - in fact we must be the only people to have lost weight during lockdown.
But I know someone whose otherwise healthy friend was in a coma for 10 weeks, and someone else whose daughter had symptoms that went on for months after getting it in March. These might be unusual but they’re enough to make me want to avoid it if at all possible.
But then I have another friend, a nurse, who reckons it’ll be around forever and we’ll all get it eventually. So maybe it’s a matter of deciding which hill you want to die on (if that’s not too grim an expression in this case).
I just don’t know anything any more.
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Post by Kye on Aug 25, 2020 12:10:41 GMT
It's so hard, Julie. This is such an uncertain, crappy time. I'll be going in to the actual church and doing services in a couple of weeks. We'll all be masked and separated from each other, but I'm 69 with diabetes and heart issues in a city which was a hotbed of Covid in my country so it's definitely worrisome. But I am sick of living alone in an isolated bubble. I've run out of emotional resources...
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Post by JoeP on Aug 25, 2020 12:26:57 GMT
I'm all for boycotting people who don't take the risks seriously. And drivers being able to turf people off buses if they refuse to comply with rules - I've see quite high compliance in London, disturbed that it's not so in Manchester.
With mask-wearing, I think buses trains and aeroplanes are relatively safe.
(Not sure about fines - the police seem to apply them a bit randomly)
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Post by Kye on Aug 25, 2020 12:28:31 GMT
It's illegal to use the transport system in Montreal without a mask.
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Post by tangent on Aug 25, 2020 13:50:27 GMT
It's illegal to use the transport system in Montreal without a mask. It's illegal to use the transport system in Stockport without a mask but many the people do. I'm all for boycotting people who don't take the risks seriously. And drivers being able to turf people off buses if they refuse to comply with rules - I've see quite high compliance in London, disturbed that it's not so in Manchester. I agree with boycotting people who don't take it seriously but unfortunately, that means boycotting most of my friends.
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Post by juju on Aug 25, 2020 19:59:10 GMT
I just spoke to my sister and she’s back at work, seeing her grown up kids, going out with her friends, etc.
I’ve been starting to wonder if it’s just us left, out in west Wales, still doing social distancing. I feel like those people they found hiding in the jungle because they didn’t realise the war was over.😕
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Post by whollygoats on Aug 25, 2020 21:46:05 GMT
The war is far from over, juju. Those folks you describe are in denial. They are playing a nasty version of Russian roulette with a virus.
Here, if you 'go out', usually to shop or run errands, then ALWAYS wear your mask. My socialization is limited to visits from my friends where we chat at acceptable social distance, usually across the back garden, although with the hot weather, there has been a temporary retreat to the front porch. Dave comes twice a week. My Risk buddies ride by and stop for a chat and, maybe, a snort of bourbon, once a fortnight. Then Swimmer drops by on erratic occasions. Only one of those visitors has a job, and he works from home. He is the same person who has two teenagers, though. All others are pretty much retired isolates with their SO.
My Risk buddies have decided to try a game gathering. At my house. Indoors. But I've demanded it be on a day when the doors can all be left open and all the house fans are working circulating the air in the house. All participation at the game table and in the front room of the house must be in mask. All unmasked behavior (drinking, eating, smoking) MUST be taken outdoors (front door, back door, balcony....all lead outside). There are four, or five, participants.
I know you are always considering travel because of sons. I find it interesting that you fear flying, but your desire to see them overrides even that fear, which seems far more unavoidable than the Covid thing. Folks here are saying that travel by air is relatively low-risk because of the aircraft filtration. I'm still dubious, largely because of the cramped conditions which airline travel imposes upon those without endless pits of money. The thought of being crammed into a stuffy space where I have to wear my mask unabated for hours on end is....well, a recipe for a cranky whollygoat. Better I stay at home. Your mileage may vary....
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Post by Moose on Aug 25, 2020 23:36:16 GMT
i've not left home for about four months. I would not really want to even if I could though. This is NOT over.
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Post by tangent on Aug 26, 2020 0:07:31 GMT
I have weighed up the risks. There are currently twice as many infections circulating in the UK as there were when lockdown started in March. However, in key situations, for example shopping, most people wear masks that significantly reduce the risk of infection (by a factor of five or more). Therefore the risk today is less than the risk just before lockdown, and that gives me confidence to go out of the house.
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Post by Mari on Aug 26, 2020 6:19:54 GMT
We've resumed life pretty much as normal except with social distancing, though you have to work hard to maintain 1,5 meters since so many people seem to have forgotten about it. You do have to make reservations for things like restaurants and parks where we didn't used to have to, but that's okay. I still work from home and probably will for the foreseeable future.
I'm taking a test this afternoon since I have a runny nose, cough and some shortness of breath, but I think it is just a cold coupled with the pregnancy. To keep my elderly neighbours, parents and the people at the daycare safe I felt I'd better make sure though. We'll know in 48 hours.
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Post by Kye on Aug 26, 2020 9:34:20 GMT
A runny nose sounds more like a cold -- but of course it's good to make sure!
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Post by Mari on Aug 26, 2020 14:16:41 GMT
Apparently a cold can also be a symptom of corona, coupled with some other symptoms. The doctor felt the possibility was enough to check for it anyhow. *shrugs* Some of the questions: do you experience shortness of breath... I'm pregnant so yes. Do you experience muscle ache? I have pregnancy related piriformis, so yes. Along with cold symptoms the checklist adds up.
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Post by Kye on Aug 26, 2020 14:43:48 GMT
Better safe than sorry.
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Post by whollygoats on Aug 26, 2020 17:08:10 GMT
A 'cold' has a very high chance of actually being a 'coronavirus', as another non-Covid-19 coronavirus is the most common cause of what we pass off as that annoying upper respiratory viral infection, 'the common cold'.
One positive benefit of following the protocols for Covid-19, the frequent hand-washing, hands away from face, and wearing a mask, all should translate to fewer such seasonal infections like colds and flus.
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Post by Mari on Aug 27, 2020 11:57:03 GMT
As predicted it's not corona. But better know for sure. Taking the test was nasty though. I'm not good with things stuck in my throat as my dentist can confirm.
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Post by tangent on Aug 27, 2020 13:04:59 GMT
I'm glad it's not the coronavirus. I've signed up for a survey that requires me to take a test every month so obviously I'm not looking forward to that side of it.
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Post by Kye on Aug 27, 2020 13:40:09 GMT
When I did my test, they stuck a tester up my nose and twirled it around for 10 seconds. Not fun, but it didn't last too long.
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Post by Mari on Aug 27, 2020 21:05:04 GMT
Yeah, had the nose thing too. Unpleasant, but doesn't make me vomit.
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Post by kingedmund on Sept 2, 2020 14:50:13 GMT
Yikes. Not fun. Life resumed as normal here to. You will not be able to keep people in. Everyone for the most part wears masks and still not sure how effective that is. I don’t go out and eat and I don’t Goto nightclubs at the moment. Still really the grocery store is it except for operating business needs.
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Post by tangent on Sept 2, 2020 22:34:54 GMT
Everyone for the most part wears masks and still not sure how effective that is. Studies have shown that masks are very effective if everyone wears them. They cut down the transmission of flu viruses by 80%.
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