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Covid-19
May 14, 2020 11:04:32 GMT
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Post by juju on May 14, 2020 11:04:32 GMT
So the WHO are saying what a lot of people are suspecting, that this virus could be with us for the foreseeable future: /?vh=e&d=n Obviously a vaccine would be the best scenario, but otherwise it’s hard to see what will happen. As someone in a rising age demographic for hospital admissions (people in their fifties) I’d be reluctant to ever get back to ‘normal’, but nor do I want to hide forever! I have no underlying conditions that I know of but that’s not necessarily a guarantee of anything. And my husband is 5 years older (and male, statistically at higher risk) so I wouldn’t want him to get it, either. Obviously other people are in much higher risk categories so what of them? I just can’t imagine how the future is going to look. I highly suspect there is still a herd immunity policy in ours and other countries, as without a vaccine it’s probably seen as a matter of luck.
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Post by tangent on May 14, 2020 12:44:37 GMT
Obviously other people are in much higher risk categories so what of them? I just can’t imagine how the future is going to look. When I turned 70, I was diagnosed with cancer. I looked at it philosophically, I'd had a good life and anything more would be a bonus. As it happens, radiotherapy proved successful and I am no longer at risk from lymphoma. But it taught me to value the life I have already had and be glad. I still have a mindset that anything more is a bonus, (although I admit I'm exercising strongly every day to improve my lung capacity).
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Post by Kye on May 14, 2020 12:56:23 GMT
I just hope that at some point I can see and hug my children and grandson. This is very hard for us that live alone.
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Post by whollygoats on May 14, 2020 15:27:16 GMT
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Covid-19
May 14, 2020 20:48:07 GMT
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Post by juju on May 14, 2020 20:48:07 GMT
My husband spoke to his brother this evening - sounds like he's had covid for the last week or so, although can't get a test yet.
We were pretty alarmed at this, and hoping he's ok (he says he's feeling a lot better) but also because just this morning I opened a thank you letter from his little girl (addressed by his wife).
From what I can read coronavirus doesn't live very long on paper, and I'm pretty sure I washed my hands straight afterwards, but still it brought it home to us. Hopefully not literally though 😲
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Post by kingedmund on May 14, 2020 22:11:02 GMT
My aunt and uncle had it last month. My aunt came out with heart problems that she did not have before. Not sure what that means to those who may get if.
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Covid-19
May 14, 2020 23:01:43 GMT
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Post by tangent on May 14, 2020 23:01:43 GMT
A random sample of 11000 people in the UK found that 1 person in 400 is currently infected with the virus.
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Post by ceptimus on May 14, 2020 23:32:58 GMT
Which probably means that just two percent of the UK population, at most, have had the disease up to now.
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Post by tangent on May 15, 2020 0:00:14 GMT
You're saying 1.3 million at most have had the disease. I would agree. And yet Manchester University says as many as 19 million may have had the disease ( article). I don't see how that's possible if only 1 in 400 are currently infected (or to be more precise, were shown to be infected at some time between 27 April and 10 May).
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Post by Elis on May 15, 2020 8:41:47 GMT
I'm beginning to hate most social networks and have just deleted my Twitter account. It seems as if there are only two extremes these days: the "Covidiots" (I hate that word) who don't care about people dying and would scrifice millions of elderly people for the economy, or those who are worried about the virus only and think all the oter consequencs shouldn't matter. if you don't beling with one extreme, they autimatically assume you belong with the other extreme. To be honest, I worry about the virus, but also about basic rights having been taken away and the consequences of the lockdown. Is that so bad? I am careful and we still keep our distance and are no using nearly all the new freedoms we have with restrictions being lifted. But I still worry about people losing everything and about lots of other things.
A demonstration against the Corona-restrictions was stopped by a large group of cyclists last weekend. That worries me too. The demonstration was not right-wing or conspiracy-theory, though those people might have taken part as well, but the man who organised it sounded quite level-headed and sensible in many ways. I don't agree with them, but as long as they aren't saying anything that is unconstitutional, they should be allowed to demonstrate (they were doing it in their cars, keeping their distance that way), even if we don't agree with them. I think that is important for democracy.
Generally, I have to admit that these days, I don't mind the contact restrictions much. My heart already sank when I took Malcolm to the playground on Wednesday because of the other parents there whom I absolutely didn't feel like talking to. A lot of them didn't keep a distance. I focused on Malcolm and pretty much avoided all the other parents.
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Post by JoeP on May 15, 2020 20:08:31 GMT
We need social networks for people who can see both sides of situations.
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Post by kingedmund on May 16, 2020 23:01:58 GMT
I see both sides to this. But it’s tough all the way around.
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Post by Shake on May 18, 2020 2:28:37 GMT
I've just popped back in here, so haven't read the whole of this thread (only this last page, actually). Hope all are healthy and getting along fine.
I had started a new job back in late October (new company, sort of ... maybe I'll get into that later, elsewhere), and have been fortunate enough to be able to work full-time from home for nearly 2 months now. The kids had been off a week before me, and actually my first day of work-from-home turned into a bust as the laptop wouldn't turn on so I had to go back to the office to have someone look at it. My oldest had his spring break the week prior to his siblings being off, then got the message from the school that they were giving them another week and that they should expect to start distance learning after that. He just finished up his semester 2 weeks ago now, a second time on the Dean's List with a 3.89 for the semester. He's working for his uncle now (my wife's brother) who runs a property management company. They've been busy doing lawns and other assorted outdoor work. As of this past Friday (the 15th), our region of NY (Finger Lakes) has officially entered Phase I of reopening. If things are still good, in 2 weeks we get to go to Phase II, which means more openings, and I think then I can finally get my hair cut! It's not been this long since at least 1992, I think.
We attended the wedding of our friend's middle daughter yesterday, held in a park, with only about 35 of us in attendance including the wedding party. We spread out in our lawn chairs and enjoyed the nice day (although slightly cool up on the lake shore). It was nice to see people again. We chatted with some other friends who happened to be up there, staying physically distant. I've really only gone out to shop for groceries and pick up take out. Gas prices have dropped dramatically, but in all this time, I don't think we've spent $100 in gas, where we would have been doing about $80ish/week if not for the stay-at-home order.
We're enjoying the family time and getting the house de-cluttered and cleaned. The pool will be opened this week. I took the cover off last weekend, folded it in the snow a couple days later, and got slightly sunburned just a few days after that. Mother Nature has seemingly decided to now let spring finally start, though.
I was de-friended by a woman on Facebook (and dropped on IG, too) who I've known since high school. I went to her Senior Ball with her, even. She is one of the first other non-believers I'd ever known about. But she's living in Arizona now with her son and 3rd husband. She was complaining about the "overreaction" and the mass hysteria, and was upset about being asked to wear a mask in public. She posted about no longer going to one store in particular which had rolled out a policy of requiring customers to be masked while shopping. I pointed out how that was only the beginning for her if things continued there as they were here. We were way ahead of AZ in terms of response. The last straw, I think, was after she'd already removed one of my posts (on Instagram, I think) and I posted, kindly, some numbers showing that her state was still in the exponential growth phase and without these measures, things would get out of hand there. I was saddened and disappointed by her choice, but didn't let it bother me too much. I realized I don't have time for such drama.
Anyway, hope you all are doing well in these weird times.
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Post by JoeP on May 18, 2020 21:55:25 GMT
Shake!
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Post by whollygoats on May 18, 2020 22:25:42 GMT
Well, then....We gotta rattle and roll!
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Post by kingedmund on May 19, 2020 3:30:11 GMT
Hadn’t seen you in a bit, shake.
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Covid-19
May 19, 2020 6:36:48 GMT
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Post by Elis on May 19, 2020 6:36:48 GMT
Nice to see you, Shake.
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Post by kingedmund on May 30, 2020 19:10:32 GMT
And he’s gone?
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Covid-19
May 31, 2020 7:03:17 GMT
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Post by juju on May 31, 2020 7:03:17 GMT
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Post by Kye on May 31, 2020 10:45:59 GMT
Yeah, this virus has been a mystery on so many levels. It would be good to have some clarity! My daughter has a blood disorder which makes her blood prone to clotting. You might remember a few years back she had a stroke at 29. I'm really scared if she gets Covid 19 she'll have a a worse time because of it.
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Covid-19
May 31, 2020 11:08:26 GMT
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Post by tangent on May 31, 2020 11:08:26 GMT
Yes, I can understand that. And everything unknown can be scary.
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Covid-19
Jun 1, 2020 11:56:14 GMT
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Post by Elis on Jun 1, 2020 11:56:14 GMT
Apparently, small kids can get really bad symptoms too. No playgrounds for us, again. Officially, they are allowed, but someone has been tying knives to climbing frames and hiding razorblades in the sand at various playgrounds here in Bremen. Parents are supposed to check them thoroughly before letting their children play, but we have decided to just avoid them altogether. How are we supposed to find razorblades hidden in the sand pit?! Must be some very sick person who is doing that.
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Post by Kye on Jun 1, 2020 12:29:24 GMT
Good Lord! That's terrible!
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Post by tangent on Jun 1, 2020 12:49:45 GMT
Ugh, that is unbelievable
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Post by JoeP on Jun 1, 2020 20:47:14 GMT
What
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Post by ceptimus on Jun 2, 2020 4:16:03 GMT
How are we supposed to find razorblades hidden in the sand pit?! Find someone with a metal detector to scan the pit.
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Covid-19
Jun 2, 2020 10:37:44 GMT
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Post by Elis on Jun 2, 2020 10:37:44 GMT
A tad too complicated with an impatient toddler.
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Post by kingedmund on Jun 6, 2020 15:50:54 GMT
That is horrid. Why! Those people that do that.....
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Post by spaceflower on Jun 8, 2020 0:06:50 GMT
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Post by Moose on Jun 8, 2020 0:41:53 GMT
I've read that minorities have a higher death rate - a lot of the NHS staff who have died have been members of ethnic minorities. Ironic really, cos some of the people they gave their lives for were probably elderly white racists who did not even want them in the country
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