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Post by spaceflower on Mar 26, 2020 1:36:32 GMT
I had to interrupt my self-isolation b/c my library books were overdue. So I cycled to the library. Children were playing in the park, people were walking, jogging and cycling. But any day things may change. In UK and Germany only two people are allowed walking together. In Sweden gatherings of 500 people and more are not allowed. In UK all restaurants, pubs, gyms are closed and people are not allowed to go to the parks. Schools are closed. In Sweden preschools and elementary schools are still open. It is like martial law. Is there a war on? Yes, the war against the corona virus. In Sweden, we trust people to be responsible...
As both my husband and I belong to the risk groups, we are isolating ourselves. My daughter and her boy friend in London are forced to isolation. But I am more impatient than she is. I want to go shopping in the grocery store, I want to go the gym (now closed), I want to go to lectures (now cancelled) etc. How long will this go on, until next year?
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Post by Moose on Mar 26, 2020 4:36:46 GMT
Sweden is the only Western European country that is not in lockdown. I fear you will regret it.
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Post by Elis on Mar 26, 2020 5:49:18 GMT
I have to admit, though, that I'm concerned about longterm consequences of the lockdown if it doesn't end soon. I k ow quite a few people are struggling already, some severely.
Saw police at a playground yesterday, apparently some parents had let their children play there. Which is annoying since that makes it even harder to keep Malcolm away from it. But we have a little sandbox for him on the roof terrace which we share with the neighbours.
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Post by spaceflower on Mar 26, 2020 11:54:12 GMT
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 26, 2020 15:03:24 GMT
WG, do all Americans give disparaging nicknames to people they don't like, or just you and your president? All? Hardly. I'd suggest that not even 'most' do so. But, there is a significant number of usually outspoken types who engage in it. Just think of all the inane 'couple names'...
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 26, 2020 15:05:23 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Mar 26, 2020 21:11:50 GMT
Chuckie? 🤣. I couldn’t figure out who it was. Then I’m like where did Chucky’s bride go. Then I realized who you all meant.
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Post by Kye on Mar 26, 2020 21:17:48 GMT
Yeah, I didn't know either.
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Post by tangent on Mar 26, 2020 21:40:26 GMT
I guessed but I've never heard of him being referred to as Chucky. On the other hand... Charles Prince (former chairman and chief executive of Citigroup) is known as Chuck
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 26, 2020 23:53:44 GMT
Should I have used "Chaz"?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 1:02:04 GMT
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Post by tangent on Mar 27, 2020 11:24:18 GMT
Should I have used "Chaz"? Yes, that is much more usual round here, although we would spell it 'Chas'.
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Post by Elis on Mar 29, 2020 12:53:10 GMT
The minister of finance of Hesse was found dead yesterday and apparently, it was suicide. One article I saw today said that it appeared like he was not coping with the worry over the current situation. I worry that this may only be the beginning. Many people with mental health problems out there are suddenly not getting therapy anymore and facilitis to help them through everyday-life and give them a bit of structure and support have been closed. As necessary, as this entire lockdown seems to be right now, I think it is important to consider the long-term consequence this may have on many people's mental and physical health. Aside from some phone numbers that can be called to talk about things, there is not much help out there for people with mental health problems, as well as for women or children who are bing abused at home and can't escape that situation at all right now. I have to admit that this worries me as much as the virus.
I have never seen the economy as important in the way many people seemed to: more and more growth, more and more money, always more, no matter the consequences. But I wonder what will happen to people who lose their jobs or their business and who fall through the gaps and don't get the financial support they need, or other kinds of support.
On a different note, while Frank, Malcolm and I are doing quite well and experience quite intensive family time (which I am grateful for) our neighbours, a young couple, seem to be fighting almost every day.
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 29, 2020 13:44:35 GMT
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Post by kingedmund on Mar 29, 2020 15:12:02 GMT
I’m amazed with how many people here do not care about this and say this is an over exaggerated issue. I finally got out yesterday to drive to my office, which I closed the door two weeks ago. I drove buy Home Depot and hundreds of people were shopping for gardens stuff, plants, paint, etc. Is your yard that important for you to pack into a store to buy stuff for your yard or remodeling your home. My mother said the same up north of me was happening at Lowe’s. A girl at the grocery store told my friend that she thinks it’s all hype and was ignoring all CDC information. She didn’t even care about social distancing either.
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Post by tangent on Mar 29, 2020 15:46:55 GMT
We went shopping at Morrisons supermarket on Friday, queuing behind 49 people to get through the door. Shoppers mostly observed the six foot rule but many did not when they had to (a) cross the queue to get a trolley or (b) push past shoppers to get to the end of the queue. It occurred to me that most people thought they were social distancing when they weren't. A mask would have been handy but I think the only solution is not to go shopping in supermarkets.
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 29, 2020 16:19:23 GMT
I suspect that the reason masks were downplayed here was to prevent a preemptive strike by hoarders which would make them not available to those who really could get protection because they actually were working with infectious people...that's the front line responders. And, that is what happened.
It sows distrust to tell people that it will not protect them, and then, in the next sentence tell you that vast numbers of them are needed for the safety of responders. Everybody and their dog with more than two braincells can query why it is that they protect responders, but not protect hoarders. Just how does that work?
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Post by Kye on Mar 29, 2020 16:42:38 GMT
I think it's the distance thing. People who maintain social distancing are out of range for contaminated virus droplets but health care workers can't keep their distance and so need masks.
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Post by Elis on Mar 29, 2020 20:42:57 GMT
I seem to remember that the most famous virologist in Germany said that, unless someone sneezes or coughs right next to you, you don't get it from just walking past someone. The situation in supermarkets is similar here, but my impression was that people at least try to move out of each other's way quickly.
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Post by tangent on Mar 29, 2020 21:13:50 GMT
There's a difference, too, in the type of mask and how often it is worn. Some masks are meant to be worn only once, others, I guess, could be washable. The general public hasn't a clue about these things and will probably use them wrongly.
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 29, 2020 22:53:56 GMT
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 30, 2020 4:39:49 GMT
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Post by Moose on Mar 30, 2020 6:45:47 GMT
I am checking in but have nothing to add.
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Post by JoeP on Mar 30, 2020 7:28:33 GMT
*waves* at the Moose
Your check-in has been checked.
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Post by whollygoats on Mar 30, 2020 20:23:34 GMT
A mite stir crazy, but here. I'm upright and ambulatory.
Cranky, though.
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Post by Moose on Mar 31, 2020 23:28:44 GMT
I've been very irritable even though it's normal for me not to go out. Worrying, I expect.
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Post by tangent on Apr 1, 2020 16:09:23 GMT
It's understandable, worrying on behalf of the community and for your own well-being?
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Post by whollygoats on Apr 2, 2020 1:00:04 GMT
Well, the rites of life go on.
Today, I managed to vacuum the library. It's tricky because I must wait until all fuzzwads are outdoors.
Yesterday, I actually completed a complete round of laundry within two days. That's three whole loads.
I must admit that enforced isolation gets tiresome rather quickly. I'm now wistfully wishing I could do something so mundane as go out and get a burger and fries. I could, but it most definitely would not be advised.
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Post by tangent on Apr 2, 2020 12:18:23 GMT
Indeed, I look forward every day to a walk, which helps to lift my spirits a little.
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Post by Kye on Apr 2, 2020 12:47:03 GMT
I agree. I take my little guy out early (we get up at 5 am so he can pee) when no one is around. He's getting stronger now, so the walks are longer. It's good to stretch my legs!
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